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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#62401: Aug 11th 2017 at 10:22:30 PM

The loss of Future Trunks' timeline would be an acceptable trade-off for adding him to the main cast, but since Whis plopped him into a copy of that timeline it was fairly pointless to do.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#62402: Aug 11th 2017 at 10:24:15 PM

I mean, it wasn't like Zeno needed to destroy the universe in the first place; the whole Infinite Fused Zamas thing is kinda different than having Zamas start to fuse with reality itself.

edited 11th Aug '17 10:24:23 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#62403: Aug 11th 2017 at 10:27:29 PM

Erasing Future Trunks' timeline made literally everything that Trunks went through entirely pointless, especially since the ending basically plops him right into another timeline that's virtually the same.

What was the point?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62404: Aug 11th 2017 at 10:27:57 PM

I'm not talking about the manga version specifically, sorry, I just mean in general.

For their to be any point the humans would need to survive. For my idea, I was thinking that Goku with his IT (or Kaioshin with Kai Kai) is able to contact the Namekians and they'd summon Porunga, which would restore life on Earth and would be used when the battle is ongoing because the heroes would actually get killed by Zamasu before being resurrected and continuing the fight. Then Porunga is still around to move everyone to the present timeline right before Zen-Oh nukes the future one.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#62405: Aug 11th 2017 at 10:30:13 PM

Granted, that in itself assumes that Porunga is powerful enough to send that many people across timelines.

Plus, there's also the factor of, you know, there being doubles of at least half the people who exist on the planet now.

edited 11th Aug '17 10:30:25 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62406: Aug 11th 2017 at 10:34:01 PM

Like I said, the future survivors would then move to Universe 6, who has its own Earth. Champa would allow it because he's already thinking of the future tournament, and then he'd blackmail Trunks into fighting on his team which would mean delicious angst for everyone!

Porunga being able to move the Earthlings across timelines doesn't seem too bad. He can instantly move large numbers people across planets, and timeline travel is already possible. It would be plausible enough if it was used.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#62407: Aug 11th 2017 at 10:38:27 PM

It's also only possible because of Time Rings, which are used by beings higher up on the food chain by Porunga, and by Bulma's time machine, which is flawed anyways since it creates alternate timelines instead of actually letting you go into the past like the Time Rings would.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62408: Aug 11th 2017 at 10:40:58 PM

Except the time machine, as of Super, can travel between existing parallel worlds without creating new ones (supposedly). All Porunga has to do is move people to the parallel world which already exists.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#62409: Aug 11th 2017 at 10:57:52 PM

Why do they have to move to U6 again? The Earth of U6 should also be populated, otherwise the wish would be pointless.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62410: Aug 11th 2017 at 11:21:37 PM

The future survivors would mostly have counterparts in Universe 7, it'd be very unusual for them. Whereas with Universe 6, they'd have no issue with that.

While Universe 6's Earth is populated, the number of survivors from Trunks' timeline is very, very small (as in, numbering in the thousands). They'd be able to migrate without much issue.

I mean, I guess you could also easily handwave the duplicates thing and have them stay in Universe 7, but then you've got Trunks around for every arc instead of just when you need him. Universe 6 writes him out while still leaving options open.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#62411: Aug 12th 2017 at 1:11:33 AM

I understand not wanting to add Trunks to the main cast, since that'd be a pretty big change in status quo but at the same time the fact his timeline was erased renders his struggles a bit meaningless.

I feel like they wanted a Bittersweet Ending, but had no idea how to get there.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#62412: Aug 12th 2017 at 1:21:12 AM

I like that it was Pilaf that was able to figure out how to make the time machine work properly.

edited 12th Aug '17 1:21:26 AM by Zeromaeus

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#62413: Aug 12th 2017 at 1:35:49 AM

[up][up]If only Future Trunks living in the present was bad ending...

Otherwise his world ending stuff was overall positive.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#62414: Aug 12th 2017 at 3:46:54 PM

I mean, Future Trunks would be pretty useful to have around right about now.

I really don't think there was much to that ending besides showing off Zen'o power and lack of restraint.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#62415: Aug 12th 2017 at 5:32:04 PM

Universe 10 is kill. Their angel was actually sad about it, though. I guess Mojito is just a dick.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#62416: Aug 12th 2017 at 5:32:38 PM

Unlike Mojito, Cus is sad that her universe was erased.

[up] Mojito didn't like Sidra and Roh to begin with though, that might be the issue.

edited 12th Aug '17 7:26:53 PM by Cortez

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#62417: Aug 12th 2017 at 5:34:38 PM

Well she was pretty friendly with her God & Kai so its very nice of her to actually give a shit about them.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#62418: Aug 12th 2017 at 5:51:17 PM

...Huh so maybe the Angels aren't evil after all, but the Grand Priest himself is.

RIP Gowasu, may you Zamasu in peace.

Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#62419: Aug 12th 2017 at 7:05:51 PM

So, which universe will be destroyed next?

We have five universes left.

  • U3
  • U4
  • U6
  • U7
  • U11

edited 12th Aug '17 7:07:48 PM by Gehayadren

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#62420: Aug 12th 2017 at 7:25:39 PM

Well 6 & 7 still have nine members, 11 and 3 both have like four left. I forget how many U4 has left .

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#62421: Aug 12th 2017 at 7:26:19 PM

My guess is it'll be 3, then 4, then 2, then 6, finally ending with 11.

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#62422: Aug 12th 2017 at 7:27:24 PM

Can someone explain to me how exactly Gohan defeated Botamo? I don't understand how he managed to bypass his dimensional shield-thingy.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#62423: Aug 12th 2017 at 7:29:31 PM

Physics.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#62424: Aug 12th 2017 at 7:43:27 PM

He just pushed him back. Since Botamo still experiences some physical reaction from being punched, I suppose Gohan just kept punching him until it was enough to knock him off his feet, then it was just a matter of keeping him in the air.

Also, nuuuuu, not Gowasu. sad

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#62425: Aug 12th 2017 at 7:49:31 PM

For god's sakes, we spent an entire arc trying to keep him alive and now he's the second Kaioshin getting erased.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!

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