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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#62176: Aug 5th 2017 at 5:33:17 PM

Wow. Nine minutes have passed in the tournament.

This song needs more love.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#62177: Aug 5th 2017 at 5:34:20 PM

So Goku didn't nor did he make some spiel about the politness of battle or similar such dogshit?

Thank God.

[up] Damn, we really are on Namek time.

edited 5th Aug '17 5:37:00 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#62178: Aug 5th 2017 at 5:43:33 PM

Spoilers for this episode: I laughed a lot over how silly Universe 2 is.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#62179: Aug 5th 2017 at 5:45:13 PM

So everyone got all irritated bout it, and yet again it didnt happen that way. And people were all defensive when told to wait and see.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62180: Aug 5th 2017 at 5:55:01 PM

It's perfectly fine to criticize the idea presented in the preview. I'm very glad it turned out to be inaccurate, but I do wonder why they make them so inaccurate.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#62181: Aug 5th 2017 at 5:59:45 PM

Clickbait?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#62182: Aug 5th 2017 at 6:03:27 PM

Well, Vegeta didn't job to Ribrianne. Be happy about it!

Vegeta was actually disgusted fighting her and leaved for the rest of the episode.

edited 5th Aug '17 6:03:49 PM by Tomodachi

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#62183: Aug 5th 2017 at 7:11:28 PM

17 is rapidly becoming the MVP of this arc. Easily my favorite in terms of fights so far.

Universe 2's warriors are a mix of dumb and surprisingly awesome. Not a fan of Ribrianne, but the other two are kind of fun. I laughed at Beerus going "Enough with 'love', already!" at Helles, and am legitimately surprised that Master Roshi's "anti-ero" training actually seems to have worked!

And what do you know, none of the things people predicted from the episode "spoilers" came to pass. The three girls did not combine themselves. Goku didn't give 17 a dressing down for interrupting the transformation, Toppo did (which is really much more within his character). Vegeta didn't job.

You'll excuse me if I ignore any and all pre-episode "spoilers" from here on out.

edited 5th Aug '17 7:34:04 PM by DarkHunter

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#62184: Aug 5th 2017 at 7:42:27 PM

[up][up] Both 17 and 18 have been pretty savage in this arc when it comes to eliminating people.

Team Nerd has also broken up and decided to fight the remainder of the Tournament Solo.

Apparently we only just now hit the 9 minute mark of the tournament. tongue

edited 5th Aug '17 7:51:53 PM by Lionheart0

felipelight Teacher from Undisclosed Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Teacher
#62185: Aug 5th 2017 at 8:08:46 PM

Umm, Goku Did scold 17 for attacking during their transformation. Don't know why you say otherwise. Also love that haughty laugh of the U2 girls. Was waiting for Nanami to show up any minute

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#62186: Aug 5th 2017 at 8:17:03 PM

[up]

He seemed more surprised and slightly disappointed than anything.

Master Roshi's "anti-ero" training actually seems to have worked!

I no rite? That was one gun I never expected to go off, but Roshi tanked their Attract like a boss.

Good on him.

One Strip! One Strip!
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#62187: Aug 5th 2017 at 9:38:52 PM

Coming back after a while. Has it been explained why Universe 7 had five Supreme Kais (pre-Buu) and everywhere else seems to have only one? They haven't forgotten the Five Supreme Kais; the U2 Supreme Kai's profile says he's stronger than South Supreme Kai, who was U7's strongest.

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#62188: Aug 5th 2017 at 9:46:00 PM

My guess would be that there isn't a set number of Supreme Kais. There needs to be at least one, and they usually have an assistant (who may or may not be a Supreme Kai in training), but there's no limit on the maximum.

They seem to be born from that tree thing somewhat at random (albeit rarely), maybe U7 just got lucky with the number that were present.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#62189: Aug 5th 2017 at 9:47:30 PM

First half of the episode: man, 17 is a dick.

Second half of the episode: man, 17 is a badass.

This whole episode was great, and I loved U2's magical girls and their fanclub. U10 is really on the ropes, though, and with the next episode's focus on them, we might have to see Gowasu die for the third time in two arcs real soon.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#62190: Aug 5th 2017 at 10:05:53 PM

The whole transformation sequence/scolding 17/then doing it again thing was stupid and I get why people wouldn't like it. Still, I found it funny. 17 was pretty cool, I'll give him that.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62191: Aug 5th 2017 at 10:06:45 PM

Having now watched the episode (missed last week, had to watch that first), yeah it's not much better than the preview suggested. The way 17 interrupted is funny, and Toppo being the one to scold 17 is more in-character (also pretty funny) but Goku still tells 17 to let them go ahead and transform (plus there's everyone waiting for it).

Aside from that, they really padded out the sequence until the parody is no longer funny, but that's to be expected. 17 was pretty cool in this episode at least.

Coming back after a while. Has it been explained why Universe 7 had five Supreme Kais (pre-Buu) and everywhere else seems to have only one? They haven't forgotten the Five Supreme Kais; the U2 Supreme Kai's profile says he's stronger than South Supreme Kai, who was U7's strongest.

No, they haven't ever addressed it. Bringing up South Kaioshin doesn't mean it wasn't forgotten earlier (or forgotten by Toriyama) and all other evidence suggests that 1 Kaioshin per universe is meant to be the way for everything.

It's not the first time Toriyama contradicted the original Kaioshin story without explanation - he previously claimed there were three Kaioshin, who rotated in shifts.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#62192: Aug 5th 2017 at 10:15:17 PM

Yeah that transformation interruption had me rolling.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#62193: Aug 5th 2017 at 10:15:18 PM

I believe that the Supreme Kai we see are actually their universe version's of the Grand Supreme Kai. Given there's twelve universes and four cardinal directions, it was probably easier just to call them Supreme Kai than to introduce almost fifty other characters. The god hierarchy with that in mind, from top to bottom, becomes:

  • Zen'o(present and/or future)
  • The Grand Priest
  • The Grand Supreme Kai, God of Destruction and Angel
  • The North, South, East and West Supreme Kais
  • The Grand Kai
  • The North, South, East and West Kais
  • Appointed Kamis of planets

So is Peru a Dirty Old Man? Hmm...you know, I think of the wise old men the only two that aren't a Dirty Old Man in any way are Gowasu and Dr Gero. And I'm one for discounting Gero because the only bit of meat he still had was his brain

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#62194: Aug 5th 2017 at 11:22:24 PM

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Want to know what was really annoying?

How half of the episode was just those girls transforming. It dragged on, and was completely unnecessary, especially for 23 minute episodes. That's just not acceptable, reusing animation like that. I don't even care if it's a parody, it was just monumentally stupid.

What would have been funnier is if Frieza interrupted the second sequence by throwing a Death Ball at them and ringing them all out instantly.

edited 5th Aug '17 11:23:13 PM by hardcorefakes

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#62195: Aug 5th 2017 at 11:24:58 PM

I am rather surprised Freeza just stood by and let it happen. Out of all people, you'd think he'd be the one to interrupt something like that and not listen to anyone else.

Guess he was busy elsewhere?

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#62196: Aug 5th 2017 at 11:44:17 PM

Probably playing Connect Four with Jiren in a corner somewhere.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#62197: Aug 5th 2017 at 11:46:45 PM

[up][up][up]Funnier, yeah, but also worse.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#62198: Aug 5th 2017 at 11:46:59 PM

Yup again I knew this show couldn't handle the large cast for the tournament.

Characters just disappear at will & are brought back when needed after not doing anything of note.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#62199: Aug 5th 2017 at 11:49:08 PM

Besides, Freeza didn't attack Goku when he transformed, so he clearly respects the code. Only 17 has no respect for tradition.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#62200: Aug 5th 2017 at 11:54:27 PM

I am rather surprised Freeza just stood by and let it happen. Out of all people, you'd think he'd be the one to interrupt something like that and not listen to anyone else.

Guess he was busy elsewhere?

Characters don't exist when they're not on-screen, which is proven especially frustrating in such a large tournament setting.

And yeah, the first half of this episode really sucked with the padding. At least we're almost through half the remaining warriors.

Would have liked for 17 or someone to be ringed out, though, we've only had Kuririn go down so far so it's getting very uneven.

[up] Goku was able to tell Freeza would attack him and told him to knock it off. And he didn't take so long either.

edited 5th Aug '17 11:55:07 PM by Saiga


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