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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61851: Jul 27th 2017 at 8:34:56 PM

From what I understand it basically means the Dragons' powers can't work on someone stronger than they're creator without the person allowing them. That's why Porunga had to ask Goku if he wanted to be teleported back to Earth instead of it just happening. Goku was stronger than Mori, so Porunga couldn't force him to do anything.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#61852: Jul 27th 2017 at 8:39:34 PM

So basically the dragon has the creator's power level and can just apply it differently. So if say Goku could create dragon balls they could do anything to basically anyone in U7 save Whis and Beerus?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#61854: Jul 27th 2017 at 8:41:55 PM

That's the idea.

It seems to work without the stronger person's consent if they're at least compliant with the idea, like Piccolo, Gohan and Vegeta being teleported to Earth without expressly agreeing

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#61855: Jul 27th 2017 at 8:44:42 PM

So is Dende stronger than Kami was?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#61856: Jul 27th 2017 at 8:49:15 PM

Considering he was able to give the balls extra wishes, he's either stronger, or just better at the job.

One Strip! One Strip!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#61857: Jul 27th 2017 at 8:50:11 PM

Possibly. He was considered very talented and upgraded the old balls.

But we can't know for sure, even though he has better balls we don't see them try to effect anyone that God couldn't, for instance.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#61858: Jul 27th 2017 at 9:05:49 PM

I'd be a Hakaishin, because even if it was my job to destroy...its not like I'd actually be forced into doing it.

Plus, I'd get to use this as my theme song

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#61859: Jul 27th 2017 at 9:21:08 PM

I always thought the reason that Moori and Dende were able to upgrade their Dragon Balls was because Guru and Dende didn't exactly care about how strong they were in regards to their limitations.

edited 27th Jul '17 9:22:35 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#61860: Jul 27th 2017 at 9:29:04 PM

Possibly. He was considered very talented and upgraded the old balls. But we can't know for sure, even though he has better balls we don't see them try to effect anyone that God couldn't, for instance.

PHRASING![lol]

Yeah, yeah. I know, I should grow the fuck up. I Regret Nothing.

Most of you were probably thinking the same thing.

edited 27th Jul '17 9:29:16 PM by HandsomeRob

One Strip! One Strip!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#61861: Jul 27th 2017 at 9:37:04 PM

I wasn't.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#61862: Jul 27th 2017 at 9:51:23 PM
GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#61864: Jul 27th 2017 at 10:43:10 PM

Re:Dragon Ball Super Problems

I know this is beating a dead horse (and this thread moves fast) but I agree that super does have good ideas and it executes them poorly. I really wish that they handled the previous arcs as well the current a lot differently.

"Mai waifu."
XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#61865: Jul 28th 2017 at 8:56:11 AM

Preview Images for Ep.101!

Also, not sure if anyone already established this, but the US Beta sign-up for Dragon Ball FighterZ has been delayed til August 22. Japan's going on schedule.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#61866: Jul 28th 2017 at 9:23:52 AM

They've also said the beta release might have more to show off on the character front.

The beta will be available to those chosen on September 16 & 17. I would have shot for 17 & 18, personally, but everybody loves that mohawk sporting machine.
-laugh track-

edited 28th Jul '17 9:27:10 AM by Zeromaeus

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#61867: Jul 28th 2017 at 10:59:51 AM

[up][up] Dayum that U2 chick looking ominous as fuck.

Real badass there. [tup]

edited 28th Jul '17 11:05:29 AM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#61868: Jul 28th 2017 at 11:04:48 AM

Never fuck with a magical girl.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#61869: Jul 28th 2017 at 11:54:43 AM

Yeah, that's oddly ominous for Brianne there, but then again Ribrianne seems to be more of a Pre Cure (aka DBZ for little girls) parody...

Justin_Brett Since: Jun, 2010
#61870: Jul 28th 2017 at 12:17:28 PM

She's looking more and more like a not-so-nice antagonist to contrast Jiren.

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#61871: Jul 28th 2017 at 12:28:25 PM

Or maybe Vegeta just insulted her and she's about to open up a can of whoop-ass on him. tongue

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#61872: Jul 28th 2017 at 12:52:30 PM

Generally pleased at the female fighters we're getting. It's going to be a stretch to expect them to be god-tier, but decent showings like we had with Caulifla last episode will be much welcomed too, and it looks like Ribrianne will deliver on that as well.

Also, it's like, what, the 6-7 minute mark in-Universe for the TOP right? I'm surprised that Brianne's remained untransformed for that long. Isn't there supposed to be a rule somewhere for that?

edited 28th Jul '17 12:55:26 PM by MyssaRei

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#61873: Jul 29th 2017 at 8:40:09 AM

So Masako posted this yesterday and it got me thinking about Super Saiyan Blue as a whole. I came to the conclusion a long time ago that Introducing Blue so soon (1 goddamn movie later) was a mistake that rendered Super Saiyan God pointless in the grand scheme of the series. Super Saiyan God is literally the reason we have any new dragon ball material, so in my mind the form should have lasted longer in the narrative before getting replaced. I would have liked it better if Blue God was saved for Goku's fight with Jiren in the Battle Royal. It would mean Red God gets 2 films and 3 arcs at the top, and therefore have better served the narrative of Dragon Ball Super.

edited 29th Jul '17 8:40:54 AM by VeryMelon

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#61874: Jul 29th 2017 at 8:53:35 AM

I feel that Goku getting God Ki so early in general was a bad idea. Having Goku achieving God Ki again without outside help over 100 episodes of training in a climatic battle against the strongest mortal of another universe with the existence of his own on the line would give the moment way more impact.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#61875: Jul 29th 2017 at 8:59:22 AM

God Ki is its own issue, considering mortals can match and even exceed individuals who have it despite being billed as a type of power no mortal could reach.


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