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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#61776: Jul 27th 2017 at 4:16:10 PM

I don't even care one way or another.

People want to riot, fine. I'll call Golgom and ask them to stage the nicest Political Statement in existence.

People want to find it funny, they can, and should. Good laughs are hard to find.

I mean, if they all give Goku sour looks when he says it, I might find myself cracking up pretty hard, even if it is dumb.

As human beings, we have the freedom to like what we want, complain about what we want, or complain about people liking or complaining about what we want.

...I just realized something: Universe 6 being a Bizarro Universe where the Saiyans are good guys, it make sense that Earth—which is constantly threatened by outside forces, barring Red Ribbon in Universe 7—is so warlike that it wiped itself out.

They also likely didn't any dragon balls, and thus no analogue to King Furry to wish themselves the ruler and usher in an era of peace.

That plot point used to really piss me off, but now I totally get it.

edited 27th Jul '17 4:17:47 PM by HandsomeRob

One Strip! One Strip!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#61777: Jul 27th 2017 at 4:18:09 PM

Besides, "we don't attack people while they're transforming" may as well be a rule in this franchise. The only person who ever attacked anyone while they were transforming was Future Trunks attacking Cell when he went from Semi-Perfect to Perfect, and he failed because Cell had a barrier.

Attacking someone while they're charging up a big attack carries a different context than when they're transforming (it's a singular technique from the same opponent instead of an opportunity to fight a stronger version of that opponent), and thus doesn't work as a comparison.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#61778: Jul 27th 2017 at 4:19:05 PM

Really, this thread be like...

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#61779: Jul 27th 2017 at 4:21:45 PM

[up] Ya know, I was literally thinking about posting that since it was on my Twitter timeline the other day.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#61780: Jul 27th 2017 at 4:27:50 PM

[up]Yeah, I saw it today when it showed up on reddit.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#61781: Jul 27th 2017 at 4:33:35 PM

[up][up][up]Pretty much, yeah. Tensions tend to get heated fast here.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#61782: Jul 27th 2017 at 4:36:30 PM

Where doesn't things get heated quickly?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#61783: Jul 27th 2017 at 4:40:21 PM

Well, i'm 23 years old today.

Is it normal to watch Dragon Ball Super at this age of mine?

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#61784: Jul 27th 2017 at 4:45:04 PM

The only person who ever attacked anyone while they were transforming was Future Trunks

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#61785: Jul 27th 2017 at 4:52:21 PM

It better be, because I'm even older.

Also, happy birthday man! waii

XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#61786: Jul 27th 2017 at 4:55:27 PM

[up]x3 Happy Birthday! And, of course, you're never too old.

[up]x2: Interactions like this is why I love listening to the English Dub.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#61787: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:00:47 PM

In every instance of a prolonged charge up or transformation in the manga, the other party always had a reason for why they wait. Against Freeza, Vegeta et al "waited" because they were paralyzed with fear. Freeza "waited" for Goku to go Super Saiyan for the same reason (even though the transformation didn't take that long in the manga). Goku let Freeza power up to full for reasons he states directly (he wants to demoralize Freeza by beating him at his best). Piccolo et al "wait" for Cell to become Semi-perfect because, again, they were paralyzed with fear (that and there was nothing they could do). Cell waited for Gohan to go Super Saiyan 2 because he wanted to see Gohan's full power. Majin Boo waited for Goku to power up to SSJ3 (which didn't take nearly as long in the manga) for somewhat similar reasons.

It's a gag, sure, and I might chuckle if it came up in a casual fight but not in the ToP.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#61788: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:00:58 PM

I do find it silly that people are complaining about a joke before they actually see it.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61789: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:04:58 PM

[up]This is fair enough, but [up][up] does well of explaining why. And it also helps explain why "Dragon Ball started as a gag manga" doesn't mean much. The series basically moved on from gags like that in serious fights, for the most part anyway.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#61790: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:05:04 PM

[up]

It's the internet.

Traditions must be upheld.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#61791: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:12:47 PM

You forgot Vegeta letting Cell become Perfect.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#61792: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:14:23 PM

He let him due to arrogance.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#61793: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:15:46 PM

Vegeta let Cell become Perfect for the exact same reason Cell pushed Gohan into going SSJ2.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#61794: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:17:35 PM

And there's also Frieza and Goku letting the other transform into their strongest form during Resurrection F.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#61795: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:28:54 PM

@Slimcoder: But that's the thing, you don't know what the context is yet. So we really don't know the context of the situation.

[up]×6

Not really, their gag manga origin never really went away.

@Black Yakuzu 94: But jumping to conclusions over solicit/summary is an overreaction, because won't know the context until we actually see the episode.

Again, it's like how some overreacted about the summary for episode 100 saying Caulifla was going to ask Goku how to transform into Super Saiyan Blue.

The actual context was Goku telling her that she can't unlock Super Saiyan Blue yet and that while she probably can reach Super Saiyan 3, she should focus on mastering Super Saiyan 2 first. Which is a completely fair assessment.

edited 27th Jul '17 5:37:04 PM by Cortez

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61796: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:32:07 PM

[up]Not completely, no, but it's blatantly obvious things became much more serious over time, and so did the fights.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#61797: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:35:54 PM

We know the context, its in the To P.

That's the context.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#61798: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:37:31 PM

I mean, considering the fact that they said before that they weren't going to retcon the epilogue of Dragon Ball, we...pretty much know that at least Universe 7 is making it out alive in this tournament.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#61799: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:39:03 PM

[up]×2

Know we don't and i don't think you do. Also, the Tournament if Power is the setting

Because we haven't seen the scene in question. Again, it's just like people overreacting about the Summary of Caulifla asking Goku about Super Saiyan Blue.

edited 27th Jul '17 5:42:13 PM by Cortez

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61800: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:43:56 PM

I don't remember people overreacting about Caulifia asking about Super Saiyan Blue. I mean, that's stupid too, but most people seem to find it charming, I guess.

People did react badly to more Kale, and nothing we saw seemed to change anyone's opinion on that. For reasons that several people went in depth about and yet were still accused of "complaining for complaining sake" and other meaningless attempted shutdowns.

Saying anyone who doesn't like the sound of something is overreacting just by explaining why it sounds bad to them, doesn't make you come off well either.

edited 27th Jul '17 5:44:58 PM by LSBK


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