TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Dragon Ball

Go To

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#61726: Jul 26th 2017 at 9:48:34 PM

Looking at wikipedia, the episodes added to the international version are three Great Saiyaman episodes, four world tournament episodes, and one post-Buu party time episode. Never let Toei be accused of not knowing what the people want.

edited 26th Jul '17 9:48:47 PM by Moth13

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#61727: Jul 27th 2017 at 12:38:13 AM

A first look at Ribrianne in Super DBH!

Apparently she's already in Super DBH as a VR character, which is one of those virtual cards that add an 8th member to your team.

zsmg Since: Jul, 2011
#61728: Jul 27th 2017 at 3:25:30 AM

Episode 101 preview from Fuji tv.

Five warriors from Universe 11 swoop down on Goku, Caulifla and the others! While the enemy's unique abilities give Goku a hard fight, No. 17 and No. 18 come running in there too! As a result the outcome of the match is…!?

Episode 102 preview from shounen jump:

It's time to merge?! The warrior of love and victory

Furious battles rage on in the Tournament of Power. Universe 2 warrior Brianne merges with her allies Sanka and Suu to transform into Ribrianne. What is her true strength?! 17 This Week: misjudges the situation and immediately attacks! While Brianne is transforming, 17 mercilessly attacks her. His actions are criticized as being ill-mannered, naturally by those from Universe 2, but even Gokuu chimes in and berates him?!

Goku: #17 we never attack our opponents when they're transforming, it's common courtesy.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#61729: Jul 27th 2017 at 4:48:34 AM

I once knocked a guy out when he was charging up an attack, but we don't talk about that.

Ugh. That's painfully stupid.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#61730: Jul 27th 2017 at 5:13:03 AM

"we never attack our opponents when they're transforming, it's common courtesy."

[lol]

"Sometimes we even help them transform, isn't that right Vegita?"

"Goddammit Kakarot, we agreed to not bring that up again!

felipelight Teacher from Undisclosed Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Teacher
#61731: Jul 27th 2017 at 6:10:47 AM

Dammit that's what I meant 2 pages ago. Ginyu saga Goku was peak Goku. This one is total garbage. They don't even seem the same person

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#61732: Jul 27th 2017 at 6:11:44 AM

Freeza: "Are you talking about me or..."

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#61733: Jul 27th 2017 at 6:16:35 AM

Goku: #17 we never attack our opponents when they're transforming, it's common courtesy.

Oh fuck off.

Like, I know this is just for comedy, but fuck off, Goku.

edited 27th Jul '17 6:51:10 AM by Hobgoblin

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#61734: Jul 27th 2017 at 6:21:44 AM

[up][up][up]That was definitely Goku at his coolest - picking apart foes who no one else could fight without even trying, being showy and efficient at the same time.

Compared to that, current Goku definitely seems lacking. He makes rookie mistakes, gets put in the ropes constantly and uses his strongest transformation on random nobodies. And now this silly line about transformations.

Sigh...

edited 27th Jul '17 6:22:11 AM by Shlugo_the_great

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#61735: Jul 27th 2017 at 6:41:54 AM

Ok this is definite proof that Goku's character has just degraded.

He really is a fucking moron now.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#61736: Jul 27th 2017 at 6:44:58 AM

I will accept this only if Ribrianne offer to let Universe 7 perform a likewise move without interruption. You know, leading to some Gogeta or Gohku.

It won't happen, but it would be neat.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#61737: Jul 27th 2017 at 6:50:24 AM

I'm pretty sure Goku and Vegeta would rather let their universe be erased before they even considered fusing. Which is rather peculiar given that they teamed up to fight Universe 9.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#61738: Jul 27th 2017 at 7:24:09 AM

Also I'm confused Ribrianne is a fusion? But didn't we see Brianne transform into her alone?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#61739: Jul 27th 2017 at 7:34:27 AM

I know it's for the sake of a gag, but goddamn it...

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#61740: Jul 27th 2017 at 7:37:30 AM

That moment when you fully realize that they turned one of your childhood heroes into an absolute joke. sad

Well at least Superman's still great, barring the current movies sorta.

edited 27th Jul '17 7:39:09 AM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#61741: Jul 27th 2017 at 7:39:51 AM

Wasn't the end of the Buu Arc about how Vegeta respects Goku's selfess nature when it comes to fighting enemies? How he always finds some new reserve of strength to protect the people he cares about at the last moment?

Because now it just seems like Goku is kind of a dick that couldn't care less about any of that and just enjoys punching people while also being punched in the face.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#61742: Jul 27th 2017 at 7:43:38 AM

Remember when Goku was all "I don't care about fighting Cell myself, if you can kill him just go for it" to Vegeta way back when?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#61743: Jul 27th 2017 at 7:59:09 AM

[up] What's that even supposed to mean?

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#61744: Jul 27th 2017 at 8:01:21 AM

It's a continuation of the earlier comments comparing DBZ Goku and Super Goku.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#61745: Jul 27th 2017 at 8:07:50 AM

...

Meh. I hope the fight is good.

...Lets see how the manga handles this too. I want to see if Goku does something similar there before I start throwing shade at Toei.

One Strip! One Strip!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61746: Jul 27th 2017 at 8:09:42 AM

You know, the funny thing is for all the complaining here, I'm guessing a large part of the fanbase really don't think stuff like this is out of character for Goku. Funny in a sad way.

I suppose this is as good a time as any to ask this: does Super's portrayal make you like Goku more, like him less, or have no impression at all.

For me, it mostly has no impression, just because Super is all over the place and exists in two different forms that aren't even really attempting to line up with each other, that it hardly feels like an actual continuation of Dragon Ball.

edited 27th Jul '17 8:01:28 PM by LSBK

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#61747: Jul 27th 2017 at 8:27:51 AM

I felt like Dragon Ball got really over-inflated with power levels and the like with the Buu Arc, especially with everyone who wasn't a Saiyan being shunted off to the sidelines. But I was glad that it introduced some nifty ideas for video games, gave some character development to Mr. Satan (and Vegeta. Again), and then bowed out gracefully with Goku planning on training a new generation of people so he wouldn't have to be the one to save everyone.

Super just feels like a continued inflation from where the Buu Arc left off with worse storytelling. I enjoy parts of Super, like Hit or Zamasu, but as a whole I feel like the series should have just stayed finished.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#61748: Jul 27th 2017 at 8:30:11 AM

Goku is supposed to be a fighting genious.

He is making a rank amatuer tactical error here.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#61749: Jul 27th 2017 at 8:42:03 AM

[up][up][up]Canon Discontinuity?

Yea, I can only really tolerate Super as it's own thing, but it's the prime example of what can go wrong with continuing a series that's long been finished.

I was fine with Bo G and Ro F was passable, but Super just does not feel like a legit continuation of the series. It's like it's a canon fanfic.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61750: Jul 27th 2017 at 8:46:57 AM

I mean, Toriyama just gave an outline to both Toei and Toyotaro and actively encourages them to do their own thing. Neither is more "canon" than the other as far as a I can tell, and either way both have issues with being a sequel to Dragon Ball, the manga.

It's not even about Super's quality, per se, so much that I just don't see how the above is reconcilable. This would still be an issue for me even if both the Super anime and manga were both written far superior to the original Manga, but still were very clearly meant to be their own things.

edited 27th Jul '17 8:48:48 AM by LSBK


Total posts: 130,800
Top