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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#61676: Jul 24th 2017 at 3:08:30 PM

The Frieza arc did put the series in another direction especially with how it approached combat.

"Mai waifu."
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#61677: Jul 24th 2017 at 3:29:50 PM

You know I hope that DB heroes game picks this up and adds Goten Black, SS Rage kid Trunks with sword and SS Rage Gotenks black with sword.

Knowing how Heroes operates, they's probably make a Trunks Black and a Broly Black, because Lord knows there's not enough iterations of Trunks and Broly in Heroes. tongue

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#61678: Jul 24th 2017 at 3:31:07 PM

Broly Black sounds funny, to be honest. Just because of the mental image of an eloquent, Hulk-mode Broly.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#61679: Jul 24th 2017 at 3:31:33 PM

Goku was so badass during the Ginyu fight. I wish he was half so cool during this arc - instead everyone and their mother can give him problems.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#61680: Jul 24th 2017 at 3:33:23 PM

This really makes me like Gokus behavior during the Euice Shenron fight where he became furious after Euice attacked his family & told him that a man's family is sacred. He then threatened the Shenron to go away forever & clearly didn't care if he fought him again, he just didn't want to see the disrespectful bastard again forever.

Like he shouldn't be acting so chummy with Frieza, knowing their encounter on Namek lasted. The two should be mortal enemies who despise each other.

edited 24th Jul '17 3:37:04 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#61681: Jul 24th 2017 at 3:36:06 PM

Come on, guys. You're being too hard on Goku. Frieza's only tried to kill everyone he knows and loves on three separate occasions. Why wouldn't he let his guard down around a guy like that and forget how evil he was?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#61682: Jul 24th 2017 at 3:42:41 PM

How would Goten Black even work?

Zamasu: "I want you to swap my soul with that of the mortal Son... (crap, I forgot his name)."

Zarama: "Well?"

Zamasu: "Just show me the Son family of the planet Earth, in Universe 7."

*picture of Goku relaxing in the field with Goten, Chi-Chi walking up to them*

Zamasu: "That one, there, with the stupid hair. Swap my soul with him."

Zarama: "Your wish is granted. Farewell."

You are now imagining Goten Black monologuing about the failings of mortals and divine justice while still looking like a 7 year old child.

edited 24th Jul '17 3:45:16 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#61683: Jul 24th 2017 at 4:04:22 PM

What about a complete tie?

What if a universe was short two guys initially and all of them are still standing when time runs out but a different universe who brought ten had nine standing? The smaller team wouldn't have lost anyone but the larger would have still lost one member.

Did Toriyama put any thought into the inner workings of this tournament?

Will it really make any difference at all?

When the Grand Priest was explaining the rules, he did mention that, in case of a tie, the match would continue until a definite winner could be determined.

So, I guess if the last survivors are, say, Hit, Frost, Jiren, Toppo, Goku and Gohan, then a 3-way tag team match would take place, and one guy being eliminated means their team loses. In this scenario, if Hit, Goku and Jiren are eyeing each other, ready to make the first move... and then suddenly Frost eliminates Toppo with a cheap shot, Jiren would immediately lose, blue balling Goku and the audience simultaneously. And it would then come down to U6 vs U7, because a winner hasn't been determined yet.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#61684: Jul 24th 2017 at 5:27:05 PM

You are now imagining Goten Black monologuing about the failings of mortals and divine justice while still looking like a 7 year old child.

That... actually sounds like it could've been pretty decent - at least as a temporary form. If done right, possessed (or in this case body-switched) kids can hit the right kind of creepy and all.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#61685: Jul 24th 2017 at 5:30:05 PM

Come on, guys. You're being too hard on Goku. Frieza's only tried to kill everyone he knows and loves on three separate occasions. Why wouldn't he let his guard down around a guy like that and forget how evil he was?

Yeah, it isn't as though that it.....wait.

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#61686: Jul 24th 2017 at 5:57:44 PM

[up]x2 Klarion the Witch Boy, based on his animated appearances, instantly comes to mind as a reference for a seemingly childish, but well-spoken and powerful immortal Enfant Terrible. So, as far-fetched of an idea as it is, it's not totally impossible to pull off.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#61687: Jul 24th 2017 at 7:10:01 PM

You are now imagining Merged Zamasu as a whiny pretentious edgy young teenager having a meltdown, which is by far the most appropriate thing to imagine Merged Zamasu as.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#61688: Jul 24th 2017 at 7:13:08 PM

Huh Zamasu possessing Goten would be interesting.

Also a good way to bring Goten back into the spotlight.

Like if Black Goten were to fuse with Trunks would that make Black Gotenks & Zamasu would be in control of the fusion?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#61689: Jul 24th 2017 at 8:18:43 PM

Huh, interesting that manga version of Zamasu was big enough threat that if zeno wasn't called, it would have been bad for people in the past too .-.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#61690: Jul 24th 2017 at 8:33:32 PM

It was the same in the Anime, he was actively starting to break through to other timelines, including the past.

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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#61691: Jul 24th 2017 at 8:35:52 PM

Zamasu being an interdimentional menace is canon, it differs how in mediums (Cosmic horror in the anime, a bunch of inmortal clones with a time machine in the manga)

Also, did I mention I like Kale? I mean, her, as her own character when not in berserker mode? She is cute. I hope next episode she starts to control her powers, she would be rescued form the Walking reference sheet.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#61692: Jul 24th 2017 at 8:39:02 PM

I kind of hope future Dragon Ball games reduce Broly to a costume for Kale, if they include him at all. It seems unnecessary to have both when they have the exact same fighting style and Kale is much more important to the story than Broly is, so she's the logical choice over him.

edited 24th Jul '17 8:40:52 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#61693: Jul 24th 2017 at 8:43:14 PM

...You're making a pretty big assumption by saying she's more important than Broly. Beyond that, Broly is still a popular character (well...more popular than Kale comparatively speaking) , so I can't imagine a move like that being well received.

edited 24th Jul '17 8:43:58 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61694: Jul 24th 2017 at 8:47:52 PM

Well, Kale is "more important" in that in a certain sense she's canon at least. We'll see what she does later and how prominent she'll be after this. Not very, I'm assuming.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#61696: Jul 24th 2017 at 8:49:38 PM

Broly only exists in three terrible movies with no canonicity. Kale is a major player in Super's Universal Destruction arc. When I say "Kale is more important than Broly", I'm saying it with the same meaning as "Puar is more important than Broly", "Turtle is more important than Broly", and "Burter is more important than Broly".

edited 24th Jul '17 8:51:07 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#61697: Jul 24th 2017 at 8:52:19 PM

No, that's saying "Kale is canon to the series instead of Broly", there's a pretty distinct difference from what you said.

In any case, my point still stands. I highly doubt they're going to do that.

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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#61698: Jul 24th 2017 at 8:55:37 PM

Kale will probably be inspired by the Super Saiyan 4 way to control her power: She will remember her concience and turn into the legendary super saiyan "4".

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#61699: Jul 24th 2017 at 9:11:42 PM

You need a tail to become Super Saiyan 4, and Toriyama is pretty Anti-Tail now.

Hell, he's said Universe 6 Saiyan's evolved to no longer need them. He just won't draw them anymore...even though he's not actually drawing the series that much anymore.

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#61700: Jul 24th 2017 at 9:18:53 PM

Why not have both?

Take, for example, Injustice 2. Superman and Supergirl are Kryptonians with similar powers but play completely different from one another (and, to a lesser extent, can be applied to Cheetah and Catwoman).

If, for instance, Arc System Works wants to add Broly in Dragon Ball Fighters out of the box, and add Kale as apart of a Super DLC pack, I see no reason why they can't make the two different without resorting to skin swaps (heck, they strive to do that to begin with). Kale already has that "Puny God" move, and DBZ games, no matter how faithful to the source, are no stranger in adding game exclusive moves that "reasonably" make sense.

edited 24th Jul '17 9:34:51 PM by XMenMutant22


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