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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#61626: Jul 23rd 2017 at 6:54:38 PM

Damnit, why do I always get to conversations late? I wanted to say something about how repeating your opinion too many times is just fishing to start an argument with others who disagree (e.g., 'Kale sucks', *conversation*, 'Kale sucks', *conversation*, 'seriously, I think Kale sucks', *conversation*, 'Kale is really the worst', 'shut up! Kale is great!', 'no, she sucks!').

@Wedgy Hit: Sounds plausible, though why would he resort to childish antics? I could see Hit doing this as a kid, maybe, but that was over 1,000 years ago.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#61627: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:01:48 PM

Eh, that wasn't the point. And while I admit I can be a bit course, I'm not going to apologize for that particular comment, because I still think your comment is more like spam than anything else.

Well I think that's very rude of you. My comment was a bit flippant to be sure but it was an on topic reply and not spam. I know you wanted this to move on but I am still upset by this.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#61628: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:16:21 PM

I don't really wanna jump in, but if your only comment to someone online is simply "I disagree" and nothing more, you're really not saying any substantial. If you didn't have anything noteworthy to say, then a post wasn't really needed.

That's just my two cents.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61629: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:20:29 PM

Think Jiren is the mortal stronger than their universe's God of Destruction?

edited 23rd Jul '17 7:20:47 PM by LSBK

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#61630: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:20:40 PM

But it wouldn't work on Frieza, he's naked.

That's what groin kicks are for.cool

One Strip! One Strip!
Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#61631: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:20:49 PM

Repeating the same sentiments over and over is also not really needed.

Jiren prolly is the mortal in question. Toppo is in training for G.o.D. and Jiren is stronger than him. Makes sense

edited 23rd Jul '17 7:21:52 PM by Jedi1113

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61632: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:23:37 PM

[up]People can feel the same way about something for different reasons. A lot of people dislike Kale, but there was also something different added in.

On Toppo being in training, that say nothing about how strong their current God of Destruction is, or whether Toppo is stronger than him.

edited 23rd Jul '17 7:27:24 PM by LSBK

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#61633: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:25:20 PM

I agree with Black. LSBK is disagreeing, but elaborating on what he says each time which goes a long way.

It's just easier to have a discussion if there is something to respond to. Just saying you disagree doesn't promote further discussion, and doing so repeatedly can look like you're sniping or being antagonistic.

Anyway, on Kale: I don't think anyone has ignored her self-loathing, but it's a pretty common trait in her character type which means it isn't very noteworthy. And it only serves as a trigger for the behaviour people are criticizing.

I agree with the earlier points that she'd be better off worrying about her team and feeling worthless over an inability to help them, instead of focusing solely on Caulifa and being triggered by petty things.

Edit: and from reading the past few pages, it hasn't just been repeating the same sentiments over and over. People have described dislike for Kale in a multitude of different ways, bringing up new points or clarifying previous ones.

edited 23rd Jul '17 7:27:03 PM by Saiga

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#61634: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:25:45 PM

Jiren has been hyped up enough I could see it being him but it might be someone from the top 4. Setting up future plots.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#61635: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:30:52 PM

I don't really wanna jump in, but if your only comment to someone online is simply "I disagree" and nothing more, you're really not saying any substantial. If you didn't have anything noteworthy to say, then a post wasn't really needed.

That's just my two cents.

Well that's your view, but not everyone has the same idea of what is substantial or necessary. Going "you shouldn't have made that post" is just a crappy thing to say.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#61636: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:32:36 PM

Yeah a lot of posts here boil down to saying this show is stupid, fuck toei, for the same reasons week to week. Doesn't mean someone should tell those ppl they shouldn't post.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61637: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:32:37 PM

[up][up]I can't really take your view of politeness seriously if it basically amounts to inhibiting actual discussion. And only seems to apply to people who aren't you.

[up]If the show continues to give people reasons to complain, there's no reason they shouldn't do so. If you disagree comment. That's what discussion is. Super, at least, is an ongoing series, so it doesn't strike me as particularly reasonable to expect people to stop having things to say, just because they're negative.

As far as Toei goes, I don't have much to say on that front. I'm not much for scapegoating, which is kind of what it feels like to me, since I have no idea about the actual process.

edited 23rd Jul '17 7:35:00 PM by LSBK

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#61638: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:38:42 PM

It's just easier to have a discussion if there is something to respond to. Just saying you disagree doesn't promote further discussion, and doing so repeatedly can look like you're sniping or being antagonistic.

Just gonna leave this here...

No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!
Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#61639: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:42:48 PM

I get what are you sayin but it has basically been the same people saying the same things week after week. Ive read every post here for almost all of Supers run and it can get really echo chambery. Which is gonna happen, but I don't see how you can say certain posts lead nowhere when often a lot of the posts lead nowhere really.

Even now we are having a convo that has definitely occured several times lol.

edited 23rd Jul '17 7:44:36 PM by Jedi1113

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#61640: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:44:17 PM

I've been running under the assumption that the 'mortal stronger than their Hakaishin' is from one of the four exempt universes and is going to be the main antagonist of the next arc.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61642: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:45:01 PM

Also, I never told anyone to stop posting. I just commented that just going "nah" isn't actually contributing any meaningful new points to discuss. That that's apparently a controversial statement to make and "rude" is something I'm actually taken a bit back by.

edited 23rd Jul '17 7:45:42 PM by LSBK

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#61643: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:46:43 PM

I've been called rude for things I never saw that way either. It happens and honestly you can come off condescending sometimes. Not that i think you mean to.

Anyway back to the show...

edited 23rd Jul '17 7:47:47 PM by Jedi1113

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61644: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:50:27 PM

That is the curse of the internet and not being able to hear tone and read facial expressions.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#61645: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:53:26 PM

Yup. Which is why i usually try and step back for a min when i feel someone is insulting me unintentionally.

So I get it is likely budget, but it really doesn't feel like a huge brawl is going on. Backgrounds feel really empty.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#61646: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:53:40 PM

Tone seems pretty obvious most of the time...

[up]How much smoke is upon the scene...eh?

edited 23rd Jul '17 7:54:52 PM by randomness4

Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#61647: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:55:23 PM

The tournament would have been more interesting had it been one on one. Battle royales are fun until it comes time to show off individual characters and then it slows to a crawl.

This song needs more love.
Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#61648: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:57:20 PM

I wish they would do like 20 mins of brawl or something then whoever is left does 1v1 tourney style.

edited 23rd Jul '17 7:57:58 PM by Jedi1113

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#61649: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:59:06 PM

There should be more team ups...

Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61650: Jul 23rd 2017 at 8:00:02 PM

And there's also those awkward moments where there's no noise or seemingly anything else going on because it would distract from two characters talking or whatever.


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