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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#61051: Jul 15th 2017 at 8:57:24 PM

I would argue only one pairing in Naruto is worse than how wretchedly bad Krillen/18 is.

And I specifically referred to Shonen.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#61052: Jul 15th 2017 at 9:14:42 PM

Gray and Juvia.

Edit: Awkward page topper.

edited 15th Jul '17 9:15:41 PM by Ikedatakeshi

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#61053: Jul 15th 2017 at 10:17:52 PM

I like how one of the Supreme Kai's made a point to do a length exposition on how Goku actually did the right thing by giving the Universes a fighting chance and how everyone should be thankful.

It's like Toei realized too late they may have had Goku too far and have to course correct. tongue

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61054: Jul 15th 2017 at 10:28:34 PM

[up]Yeah, it's getting kind of awkward.

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#61055: Jul 15th 2017 at 10:30:41 PM

There are worse pairings. Krillin and 18 are alright.

Also, what do you mean "I said shonen"? Naruto is a shonen series, after all.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#61056: Jul 15th 2017 at 10:47:33 PM

Krillin did better than I thought he assisted in 2 takedowns and took down a third on his own

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#61057: Jul 15th 2017 at 10:48:54 PM

Anyway, is it wrong that I'm kind of bummed he really didn't just kill a guy and got eliminated that way? Seriously, he was using he the kienzan as if it were any other move and it really made he (or the writers) seem stupid.

No, I do too - mostly because I thought it would been more interesting way for him to be taken out of the tournament plotwise.

That double team move with 18 and Krillin was awesome, though. Seriously, up there with some my other favorite moves from Super so far. What do we call that? I keep going back to something like Volleyball Fist: Handball Attack? Dodgeball Double Team?

If Dragon Ball FighterZ has Street Fighter Ex style Meteor Moves for certain teams, that needs to be one of them.

edited 15th Jul '17 10:49:12 PM by KnownUnknown

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#61058: Jul 15th 2017 at 10:51:26 PM

[up]x5 Except they didn't "realize too late", Vados said the same thing to the other Gods of Destruction after the tournament was announced and the Grand Priest himself said Zen-Oh was already planning on erasing the 8 universes regardless.

So i don't know what you mean, because they made it clear they universes were screwed either way. But Goku suggesting the tournament at least gives one of the 8 a shot at survival.

[up]×3 If by alright you mean adorable. The chestnut family is the best!

[up]×2

Plus saving his wife from elimination. Honestly, i thought the episode did right by Krillin. He may have been eliminated, but he did a lot beforehe was.

edited 15th Jul '17 11:00:25 PM by Cortez

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#61059: Jul 15th 2017 at 10:54:16 PM

They can't really focus their anger on zen-o's though so they focus on the next best target the dude whos buddy buddy with them that they have a chance of beating

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#61060: Jul 15th 2017 at 10:56:42 PM

Exactly, they took it out Goku because they don't dare criticize Zen-Oh.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#61061: Jul 15th 2017 at 10:56:57 PM

I think some, like Toppo, simply refuse to believe that Goku isn't in on it. Others just see Goku as a good outlet for their outrage. Quitela does a lot of trying to turn universes he interacts with against Universe 7, but its clear that he actually just hates everyone Beerus-related in general.

Unrelated, but it just hit me is the second time that Krillin's had a fight where the crux of strategy came down to smell and stinkiness. A dubious distinction.

edited 15th Jul '17 10:59:57 PM by KnownUnknown

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#61062: Jul 15th 2017 at 10:58:56 PM

It's not like they have any particular reasons to like him...

"Because of him, at least one universe will survive!"

"....Yay?"

He could've just not reminded Zeno about the tournament, as per Beerus' advice....after all, the future seems to be fine in Trunks' timeline. Even after Zamasu killed all of the Kais and Go Ds, Zeno still didn't feel compelled to nuke 8 universes.

Guess he forgot?

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#61063: Jul 15th 2017 at 11:00:06 PM

so how long till goku knocks out caulifla and kale goes crazy shouting KAKAROT knocking out everyone in her path?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61064: Jul 15th 2017 at 11:03:40 PM

I mean, Trunks' timeline was not in the distant future. There's really no telling when the Omniking would have gotten around to doing his thing.

I get being upset at Goku inadvertently giving him the idea, but I find it weird how a lot of people are acting as if "destroy all the losing universes" is something that naturally accompanies having a tournament, when the tournament that Omniking liked and wanted to try basically had no stakes at all (just moving the Earth to Universe 6 or not would affect basically no one besides Beerus).

edited 15th Jul '17 11:04:31 PM by LSBK

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#61065: Jul 15th 2017 at 11:06:19 PM

[up]×3

Assuming Zen-Oh was planning on it before Future Zen-Oh arrived, but it's possible that the plan to erase the 8 low ranking universes was something Zen-Oh came up with after Future Zen-Oh to the present or even something he came up with because of Future Zen-Oh.

I mean, was it said when Zen-Oh decided to do this?

edited 15th Jul '17 11:07:09 PM by Cortez

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#61066: Jul 15th 2017 at 11:07:03 PM

Universe 10 was fine 1,000 years into the future, that's pretty "distant". Maybe not to Zeno though....

Besides, Zeno is a child, and children forget plenty of things. Maybe he doesn't destroy anything, unless the Grand Priest outright reminds him of it.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#61067: Jul 15th 2017 at 11:10:19 PM

He destroyed Future!Trunks universe on the basis that something like it shouldn't exist. And apparently he gave each universe its "mortal rating" personally. This is apparently something he cares about, but being fickle is his nature.

I do like how they're playing up the dissonance. Having Frost and Frieza be disgusted by it is a nice touch.

edited 15th Jul '17 11:10:35 PM by LSBK

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#61068: Jul 15th 2017 at 11:10:35 PM

I think we may have run into another situation where the writers weren't thinking that far ahead. But then again, both of those examples are in the arc immediately preceding this one.

Is the scene where Gowasu takes Zamasu into the far future in the manga as well as the anime? Maybe it's wasn't in Toriyama's notes.

[up] Mortal rating is interesting, because while he uses it to gauge which universes are most worthy, it's not the reason why he decided to wipe out universes in the first place. He just thinks there are too many, and that was a good way of figuring out which should go and which shouldn't.

edited 15th Jul '17 11:12:06 PM by KnownUnknown

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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#61069: Jul 15th 2017 at 11:13:11 PM

Great episode. Love Krillin. Love 18. Love their chemistry together as a couple, always have. Only complaint is that Solar Flare x 100 didn't accomplish anything. Like, it could've at least turned the tide of a few battles between other people in its vicinity. Can't wait for Caulifla and Kale to take the spotlight next episode.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#61070: Jul 15th 2017 at 11:14:14 PM

[up]×2 Or at least, that's what the Grand Priest said.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#61071: Jul 15th 2017 at 11:16:50 PM

Makes you wonder why Zeno would feel that there are too many (if he even cares), or if he even comprehends what "mortal level" means.

The Grand Priest had to explain to him that the universes are in pairs, after all. How much does he understand about the universes anyway?

edited 15th Jul '17 11:17:08 PM by hardcorefakes

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#61072: Jul 15th 2017 at 11:19:13 PM

"To hell with your time out and your mom, too!"

Damn, Vegeta. No need to get personal.

edited 15th Jul '17 11:19:59 PM by Hobgoblin

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#61073: Jul 15th 2017 at 11:27:00 PM

I also loved Botamo and Magetta teaming up, and apparently some people ship them? I can... kind of see it? Maybe? They do interact with each other more often than either of them tend to interact with the other members of Team U6.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#61074: Jul 15th 2017 at 11:28:35 PM

Their tag team is amazingly silly while also being surprisingly effective.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#61075: Jul 15th 2017 at 11:31:21 PM

[up]×4

The Zen-Ohs didn't even understand why all the fighters where unnerved enough to stop fighting. They don't seem to understand the how horrifying a universes being erased is to mortals.


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