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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#60926: Jul 14th 2017 at 6:55:16 PM

[up]x9 Kale did it through raging self-pity and jealously.

Geez, you guys post REALLY quickly.

edited 14th Jul '17 6:56:13 PM by XMenMutant22

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#60927: Jul 14th 2017 at 6:55:17 PM

I mean, the tingly feeling thing didn't even exist as a concept until Cabba brought it up to Caulifla...

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#60928: Jul 14th 2017 at 6:57:34 PM

I didn't even care when she got Super Saiyan 1, it's when they started piling on transformations that it starts getting eye roll worthy.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#60929: Jul 14th 2017 at 6:59:29 PM

Well she's gonna get her ass kicked.

What difference does it make in the end?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#60930: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:00:09 PM

[up][up][up]It was a concept in as far as Goku doesn't get angry every time he goes Super Saiyan after unlocking it, and that's how they chose to portray the "on/off switch". Caulifla figures out how to skip past the middleman because she's a prodigy.

Tingly back feelings are a pretty silly way to portray it though, not gonna lie. Maybe it's just the translation though. It might sound better in the dub two years from now.

edited 14th Jul '17 7:00:22 PM by Moth13

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#60931: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:01:29 PM

Ya know, people keep using that word to describe Caulifa...but was it actually said that she's a prodigy? Ever, I don't recall ever reading that.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#60932: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:02:20 PM

We saw a gold aura focus on her backside when she was doing it though, so it seems to literally come from a feeling in the back.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#60933: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:02:25 PM

What bothers me about it is that there's no meaning to it. Like a lot of things in Super, it's just pointless pandering. There's no rhyme or reason to any of it. It exists simply to say that it exists. At least Goten and Trunks getting Super Saiyan at such early ages served as a bit of a joke.

It's why I was never on board with the whole Super Saiyan Pan thing. I don't want a female Super Saiyan just to say that one exists, I want to have one that adds something important to the story that's completely unrelated to their sex.

edited 14th Jul '17 7:04:30 PM by Zelenal

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#60934: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:03:23 PM

[up] There kinda is a point.

Like in if she doesn't get the forms she doesn't stand a snow-balls chance in Hell during the tournament.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#60935: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:03:43 PM

[up][up][up][up] Cabba's boss said it. When he told Cabba to get her.

And Kale says she's a prodigy. Which, I mean. Bias, what with being her apprentice/having a crush on her but. Still.

edited 14th Jul '17 7:04:08 PM by unnoun

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#60936: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:04:31 PM

It could have been used as more than just a joke, but people got so focused on it "devaluing" Super Saiyan so they get shunted to the side. Which is ironic, given what we're talking about.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#60937: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:05:42 PM

@Slim: That'd be true unless she got Super Saiyan Blue and, even then, it'd probably still be true so it still wouldn't matter.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#60938: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:06:33 PM

Oh ok, I was just making sure.

I think her getting those transformations and Kale being..Broly, are just Toei things tbh. Those definitely seem like Toei things.

edited 14th Jul '17 7:07:20 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#60939: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:07:56 PM

Fandom has a thing for hating children and women.

Which, I mean. Isn't helped by the way children and women are often portrayed as annoying/negative, but. The ire still vastly outweighs any amount of negativity that could arguably be deserved.

Like, however bad Jake Lloyd's acting in The Phantom Menace might have been, it doesn't nearly deserve the level of the treatment and jokes and insults it received.

That's the principle.

I've seen some papers on the subject. Interesting stuff, sociologically.

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#60940: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:09:03 PM

EDIT: Whatever, this thread's moving at the speed of light right now.

edited 14th Jul '17 7:10:31 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#60941: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:09:48 PM

[up][up][up] You say that, yet Toyotaro brought Broly back to life/did the 24 hour revival thing in his AF comic, so he seems to actually like the dude.

edited 14th Jul '17 7:10:03 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#60942: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:10:53 PM

[up] Really?

Oh wow that's cool.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#60943: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:11:30 PM

...Okay, how could Broly ever deserve that?

At what point would Yenma and Baba think "this is fine".

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#60944: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:11:35 PM

Hell, he even basically came up with the Super Saiyan God ritual before the movie.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#60945: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:12:07 PM

Which Vegeta somehow got Super Saiyan Blue without.

Throwing that out there.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#60946: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:15:53 PM

[up]

... Which we still haven't gotten an official answer as to how, unless just being part of the ritual gives you the capability to access God Ki if you trained enough. ;)

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#60947: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:17:06 PM

I don't think we're ever going to get anything beyond "Whis is a very good teacher".

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#60948: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:19:56 PM

I mean, it seemed to mostly be to help with the Xicor problem, since unlike the idea that was originally on the wikia page for AF where Xicor immediately breaks out of the Z Sword and kills Trunks, he's actually stuck in there for a while before he manages to break free, so everyone takes this time to try to both train up to some level that could manage to fight against him (which leads to Vegeta learning how to instantly swap between every single transformation he possesses) and to try and find some way to bring Goku back to get his help. Broly apparently gets brought back to help with the situation.

We also had both Pan and Bra being able to become Super Saiyans, and Goku apparently being Shenron himself now, as in order for Goku to be brought back, he needs to have the Shadow Dragons (who are their own characters now and are on friendly terms with Goku) "fuse" together into Omega Shenron, have him fuse together with Goku to reform Shenron himself, and then have Shenron be summoned into the mortal realm like usual, since Goku is currently in the Dragon Realms with Pikkon and the Shadow Dragons as sparring partners. I think we also saw an Omega Shenron-version of Porunga at some point as well.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#60949: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:21:05 PM

...For the record, since it was brought up this page, for me the biggest thing about the lack of Super Saiyan Pan is the fact that Dragon Ball Heroes has given basically every Super Saiyan form to every existing Saiyan or Saiyan hybrid except her. Which makes the lack of it even in Heroes that much more jarring.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#60950: Jul 14th 2017 at 7:22:23 PM

For the record, there have also been buyable figurines of both Super Saiyan 5 Goku, and Legendary Super Saiyan 4 & 5 Broly for years now; long before Heroes was ever a thing.

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