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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#60626: Jul 9th 2017 at 1:33:47 AM

Couldn't they have also surpassed Super Saiyan God in power with a slightly weaker form simply from the training they got from Whis? Plus, Saiyan Beyond God would have to be a thing to really explain all the slice-of-life episodes where a "base" Goku or Vegeta could beat and/or match opponents they have no business matching up to in an actual base state, as well as how Goku was able to do as well as he did against Hit in the anime when he was using his "base" state.

Plus, I did kind of preface the question with the condition that all three forms could be accessed at once, so a condition implying one can switch between SBG and SSG.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#60627: Jul 9th 2017 at 1:48:22 AM

Sure, they could. But basing off ROF, SSB Goku shouldn't be a great deal stronger than SSG Goku in BOG given how he compares to Beerus so I think the intent was that they needed the 'God' forms to actually compete in that tier.

Prior to the manga I liked to think that SSB was just SSG's power in a more convenient form, and it was stronger just from Goku's training, but that probably wasn't the intent. I'd rather it that way, though.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#60628: Jul 9th 2017 at 3:23:06 AM

Ok I've been watching more Kai videos & I stumbled onto Super Buu's new voice. Ok I may need to hear but, like I know Kai has better voice-acting but I think Super Buu had a better voice & dialogue in Z. Like here's a comparison between when he self-destructed against Gohan. Starting with the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0UPdgCT2c4

And the new version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO8qhVCfY_U

Like I don't know I think the original did it better especially with lines like "Your missing the point" done in a chilling calmer voice. The new voice sounds oddly deep & too gravelling for my taste. Its weird, this is the same voice actor right?

edited 9th Jul '17 3:44:06 AM by slimcoder

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#60629: Jul 9th 2017 at 3:42:35 AM

I see your point...

I also hear Gotendo's "Oh wow, we woulda died."

That's just the best thing from the video, so non-chalant.

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Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#60630: Jul 9th 2017 at 4:07:34 AM

Zamasu was right.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#60631: Jul 9th 2017 at 5:27:56 AM

I admit to being surprised at a Universe being erased as soon as all 10 fighters from it are eliminated, but I don't have the same emotional reactions as the rest of you. I don't feel dread at seeing U9 go out, and I don't fear another Universe getting deleted either. I don't know, my thoughts are kind of scattered so it's hard to explain myself with the words I've used. I suppose I'm ambivalent to the whole affair.

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#60632: Jul 9th 2017 at 6:02:51 AM

I'll admit I was taken a bit off guard by Universe 9's erasure. I think I assumed that the Omni Kings would at least wait until the tournament was over to go through with it. You know, maybe let the losing universes watch the rest of the tournament? Say their goodbyes, that sort of thing?

That, and I can't be the only one who was disturbed by Mojito's shrug and smile. I get that the angels are the only ones who are spared from erasure, but don't they care about losing their friends, their home, their people, their fellow gods? At the very least, won't it get lonely being the only being left in your entire universe?

edited 9th Jul '17 6:03:14 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#60633: Jul 9th 2017 at 6:33:07 AM

Right now the thoughts on Mojito's reaction are:

1) They were all useless, and good riddens (which isn't un true);

2) ....well...

It could easily be a bit of both. We'll have to wait and see how the other angels react.

edited 9th Jul '17 6:33:39 AM by HandsomeRob

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#60634: Jul 9th 2017 at 6:49:15 AM

1) They were all useless, and good riddens (which isn't un true);

Eh... debatable, considering that "they" includes not just Sidra, Ro and the ten warriors, but also the trillions/quadrillions/whateverillions of beings in Universe 9 that were extinguished in that moment.

Yeah, I know, A Million Is a Statistic and all that jazz, but still, that's a pretty cold way to view your own people.

edited 9th Jul '17 6:49:54 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#60635: Jul 9th 2017 at 7:04:44 AM

It seems that there is a cross-universal law which requires all angels to be complete assholes.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#60636: Jul 9th 2017 at 7:16:58 AM

I mean, even with Whis and Vados I've never had the impression that they actually care about these people. They're enjoyable to be around and give great food, but that's about it.

So I think decry them for being cold to "their people" is probably a little misplaced. I doubt they actually think of them that way.

edited 9th Jul '17 7:18:03 AM by LSBK

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#60637: Jul 9th 2017 at 7:18:31 AM

I really don't quite get why though.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#60638: Jul 9th 2017 at 7:55:37 AM

Whis: "Oya oya..." *shakes head in disappointment*

Probably sad that he'll never be able to eat instant ramen ever again. sad

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#60639: Jul 9th 2017 at 7:59:40 AM

They are made that way. The race of angels clearly has a specific purpose as far as we have seen. They attend to and guide the G.o.D. Doesn't seem like they would need to or even have the chance to interact with normal beings of their universe. Plus the shut down when the G.o.D. is dead thing that usually happens makes it seem even more like they are just well made cogs in the divine machine.

edited 9th Jul '17 8:00:25 AM by Jedi1113

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#60640: Jul 9th 2017 at 9:22:43 AM

@Bottom of Last Page: Of course Saiyan Beyond God is a thing. Goku Black's strength when he's not Rose would make absolutely no sense whatsoever if it wasn't.

edited 9th Jul '17 9:36:32 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#60641: Jul 9th 2017 at 9:53:20 AM

That, and I can't be the only one who was disturbed by Mojito's shrug and smile. I get that the angels are the only ones who are spared from erasure, but don't they care about losing their friends, their home, their people, their fellow gods?

The angels may just be sociopathic by nature. After all, Whis and Vados have always condoned widescale destruction and death by their God of Destructions' hands, as long as it didn't destabilize the universes, with the only concern generally being that doing so was occasionally inconvenient.

And I remember that when they first found out that the universes, but not the angels, would be deleted, Beerus and company turned to ask Whis about it and his first response was to laugh in their faces.

edited 9th Jul '17 11:57:12 AM by KnownUnknown

BigBlackBangBro Time Stranger Since: Sep, 2016
Time Stranger
#60642: Jul 9th 2017 at 11:32:53 AM

No need to wait to end when they've already lost. :p

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#60643: Jul 9th 2017 at 11:56:41 AM

Also, friends, family, home?

I doubt that's the way they see it. They probably think nothing of the mortals, and I doubt they see their respective universes as a "home."

Just a job, really. I can see Whis being disappointed because he takes pride in his "work", but it won't be any deeper than that. No genuine sorrow.

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#60644: Jul 9th 2017 at 12:31:19 PM

The most emotion Whis would feel for U7 being destroyed would be some minor regret at the loss of Earth's food, and that's it.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#60645: Jul 9th 2017 at 12:33:01 PM

Its all still extremely stone-cold.

At the very least they can show enough respect not to smile at their obliteration like that asshole Mojito.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#60646: Jul 9th 2017 at 12:49:31 PM

I mean, the Angels have to babysit a bunch of lazy and apathetic gods. Is it any wonder they don't like their jobs?

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Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#60647: Jul 9th 2017 at 12:49:58 PM

Universe 9 especially. Good riddance.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#60648: Jul 9th 2017 at 12:51:31 PM

...don't the angels pick out their Gods of Destruction though, seeing as how it was Whis who offered Goku the position in the first place?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#60649: Jul 9th 2017 at 12:52:53 PM

They also tend to either enable their behavior or are to lazy to deal with it despite wanting too.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#60650: Jul 9th 2017 at 12:54:01 PM

I feel like Angels aren't allowed to interfere with their Gods' actions, just..."guide" them I suppose.

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