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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#59351: Jun 21st 2017 at 3:22:25 PM

Good Luck to the man. He brought new life to Frieza, and it'd be a shame to lose him.

One Strip! One Strip!
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#59352: Jun 21st 2017 at 3:24:26 PM

Not to dig up an old conversation but

And on the "It's just a joke" part, while for some people that may be true, TFS has made it clear that they are very serious about all of it, so I see no reason to not call them out on it. Especially since, for better or (much) worse, people treat them like an authoritative voice on the series.

To be more accurate it's a sentiment that Lani specifically has voiced. He also hasn't hidden the fact that Piccolo and Vegeta are his two favorite characters in the series. I don't think Kaiser or Taka have been quite as vocal about Goku's parenting, or lack thereof.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#59353: Jun 21st 2017 at 3:28:28 PM

Lani might be the most vocal, but the others have definitely agreed with him about it.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#59354: Jun 21st 2017 at 4:17:28 PM

Gee, the fact he voices Piccolo and Vegeta probably doesn't have anything to do with it at all. Nope.

Also, that is some meta casting to have Greg Ayres do Frost. It beats having his brother talk to himself to emulate the Japanese dub.

edited 21st Jun '17 4:17:42 PM by BlackYakuzu94

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#59355: Jun 21st 2017 at 4:20:45 PM

Heard about this a couple days ago, and I really hope Mr. Ayres gets better. I hope his voice is also unaffected by the lung surgery, since his career is in voice acting and his Freeza voice is so perfect for the character. I want to hear his rendition of Freeza in the most recent episodes, and it just wouldn't feel the same without him.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#59356: Jun 21st 2017 at 5:46:11 PM

Well, I have an uncle who will probably have to get a lung transplant due to abestos exposure, and my father got a damn triple bypass done 3 months ago; somewhat informed on the details: the surgery IS complicated and lifethreatening, however, due to that, it is never done under suboptimal circumstances. Chris Ayres is around 50, so he is quite young for that kind of intervention, and therefore he has above average chances of making it.

If he smoked, however, he is going to regret every single cigarette of his life, because it surely isn't anything resembling a pleasant experience. And he'll probably have to recover for a few months before straining his chest.

Dub!Frost is quite well done, in any case...

edited 21st Jun '17 5:47:16 PM by Eriorguez

zsmg Since: Jul, 2011
#59357: Jun 22nd 2017 at 8:08:50 AM

episode 97 summary

Frieza doesn't want to listen to any team strategies? A truly shocking development. I'm guessing it's going to be the same with Vegeta.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#59358: Jun 22nd 2017 at 8:25:57 AM

I for one am shocked that two former villains have trouble with teamwork.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#59359: Jun 22nd 2017 at 8:28:45 AM

They really should have resurrected Cell. tongue

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#59360: Jun 22nd 2017 at 8:52:28 AM

Frieza not going for teamwork was so obvious that I'm legitimately surprised they didn't realize it sooner. He tried to kill Goku about three times already and casually hit him twice.

[up]As if he'd be any better. He'd blow up the Solar System the moment someone suggested he couldn't solo the whole tournament.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#59361: Jun 22nd 2017 at 8:59:28 AM

I mean, Vegeta already said you don't need teamwork if he just beats everyone by himself. Frieza being the same isn't at all surprising.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#59362: Jun 22nd 2017 at 9:03:07 AM

To be honest, Cell is deep down the exact kind of person Freeza is. Egocentric sociopaths who cannot accept being bested, and with a damn huge sadistic streak.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#59363: Jun 22nd 2017 at 9:32:19 AM

I agree. Cell is more prone to showing mercy at times, like when he let Vegeta or Trunks live after they fought him.

Granted, he immediately tries to kill anyone who bruises his ego (Piccolo, Tien, Gohan, etc.). Even Vegeta was about to get axed before Trunks powered up.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#59364: Jun 22nd 2017 at 10:15:53 AM

Yeah, don't know if Cell would be anymore reliable....he might just try to blow himself up (along with the ring) if he got bested again.

Not that it would succeed or anything, but I could see him trying it...

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#59365: Jun 22nd 2017 at 10:17:03 AM

Freeza would do the same thing though, in fact did do that in blowing up Namek.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#59366: Jun 22nd 2017 at 10:27:44 AM

But for Frieza it wasn't (attempted) suicide. He had every intention of making it out of their alive; Cell just rage quit and only got lucky that he came back.

edited 22nd Jun '17 10:28:02 AM by LSBK

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#59367: Jun 22nd 2017 at 12:09:45 PM

Losing his perfect form ought to fuck his mind up.

And, after all, he was already aiming Kamehamehas at the planet before spitting 18 out.

Cell's mercy was akin to Freeza not killing everybody once he got to his third form: just waiting for a more savory moment while enjoying their futile struggle while their spirit breaks.

edited 22nd Jun '17 12:12:48 PM by Eriorguez

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#59368: Jun 22nd 2017 at 3:24:16 PM

I do kind of like how Wrong Genre Savvy Goku is here; he probably just assumed Freeza would cooperate because every other rival he's had eventually came around to doing so, even if they were as stubborn about it like Vegeta.

Freeza though? He's actively defying the Defeat Means Friendship nature of the series and conspiring to screw over the heroes.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#59369: Jun 22nd 2017 at 3:27:18 PM

I mean, last episode he blamed himself for falling for Frieza's little trick because he forgot for a second that Frieza is the worst kind scum. Let's see how much that plays into things.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#59370: Jun 22nd 2017 at 3:31:21 PM

Goku not learning his lesson about being too lax would be horrible to retread...

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#59371: Jun 22nd 2017 at 3:32:52 PM

Ya think he'd try to remember that.

Really how hard is it to memorize that this one guy is the most evil fuck in the universe.

Also that he's his arch-nemesis & he shouldn't try to get along with him.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#59372: Jun 22nd 2017 at 5:26:31 PM

INSOLENT SAIYAN

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#59373: Jun 22nd 2017 at 8:12:24 PM

How many times has Frieza tried to stab Goku in the back now? By my count it's at least four.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#59374: Jun 22nd 2017 at 8:19:44 PM

[up][up]I can't believe those Saiyans actually stole Zamasu's moves. Exactly the kind of behavior you can expect from ningen.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#59375: Jun 22nd 2017 at 8:34:50 PM

Honestly, Cell would probably be the worst of Freeza and Vegeta at the same time. Too arrogant and battle-lusty to team up with the others rather than doing it all himself, so disdainful of the others that he's liable to torture and mess with them for kicks rather than help, so callous about the lives of others that he likely wouldn't care if his own universe was destroyed either, and so opportunistic in his pursuit of power and perfection that he probably would have made that deal with Sidra and Rou twice as fast.

I don't think Cell ever showed much interest in revenge for its own sake (even his obsession with Goku was more a fixation on beating him to prove he was superior - like 17 and 18, he didn't seem to have personally inherited Gero's vengeance obsession), unlike Freeza. But then again, he never really got the opportunity to have a reason for revenge.

edited 22nd Jun '17 8:37:56 PM by KnownUnknown


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