It seems more like Karrot randomly decided to visit those characters...
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edited 18th Jun '17 10:11:41 PM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.People probably don't hold it against Veggie because he was just following Karrot's actions...
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Instant Transmission takes concentration, which was kind of hard to maintain in that situation. That's why the fused Supreme/Kibito Kai had to come and get them, because Goku couldn't IT them away.
I don't think any of us think Goku is the greatest father ever, but at this point it seems like some of you are intentionally trying to make him seem worse by holding completely unreasonable things against him. Things that other characters wouldn't have held against them.
edited 18th Jun '17 10:15:16 PM by LSBK
Alternate replacement for Buu:
If only am I right?
edited 18th Jun '17 10:51:19 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."the reason that we dont hold vegeta accountable for his unarguably shittier actions is because we hold goku to a higher standard than vegeta
when goku, defender of earth and fighter for justice, fails to live up to perfect expectations of being a parent or husband we criticize his actions because as the hero he should be better than this. he's the hero.
but when vegeta, anti-hero and evil guy turne good, does anything even half-decent we praise him because he could've been (and was) once worse. he respect what little effort he does put forth because we dont expect him as the darker, previously sinister, counterpart to goku to actually be a great guy.
"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-MaeI mean, Goku's not those things, though.
He punches evil in the face because it's a thing to punch in the face. Not because it's evil.
My various fanfics.And yet he was willing to use the Dragon Balls to bring Bora back to life, even though he had only known Upa for like a few hours and that it meant losing his grandfather's Dragon Ball, again. Plus, like it or not, this is still a guy capable of using the Spirit Bomb, riding the Nimbus, and no-selling the Devilmite Beam, which specifically worked by making the evil in a person's heart increase exponentially until their heart exploded, meaning that Goku is without evil intent.
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!Goku said it best during his time with 17 in Super; He's not some "Hero of Justice" type who goes out of his way to right wrongs, rescue kittens from trees. He's just interested in getting stronger and fighting strong opponents. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean he's just gonna turn a blind eye to people getting hurt in front of him for no reason. He literally obtained the most esteemed status of his race because his best friend was murdered and his son was threatened.
He's, at worst, a hero with an unconventional moral compass but very clearly cares about the people around him, even if he doesn't always express it positively. Yet, people seem to treat him like he's some sociopath who doesn't care about anything around but fighting. I know Super kind of flanderizes him a bit, but even that's nowhere near to the exaggeration that fans take it. Ron the Death Eater is in firm effect here.
It's even more baffling when Vegeta gets the Draco in Leather Pants treatment. Yea Goku's the hero, doesn't mean he has to be held to the highest moral standard ever and that failing to meet that suddenly makes him an irredeemable villain.
edited 19th Jun '17 12:27:44 AM by BlackYakuzu94
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.Goku is not a hero of justice but his recent portrayal in Super really didn't endear him to his audience and fans. If Vegeta of all people is portrayed as being somewhat better than Goku then I blame the writers for flanderizing Goku.
I got this from Kanzenshuu forums:
edited 19th Jun '17 1:04:41 AM by GAP
"Mai waifu."It seems like some have developed a very Broken Pedestal towards Toriyama and Dragon Ball because of Super, but I'm not criticizing them for it.
I'm not sure if I should really look forward to watching Super on Toonami anymore. I certainly don't look forward to seeing the fallout from the ending of the Future Trunks saga.
Maybe it's just a side effect of growing up, but I feel quite comfortable critiquing this franchise now. If Toriyama and Toei are just in it for the money, I'd rather they just let this franchise die a dignified death, if it isn't already past the point of no return.
I once felt very sad in 2003 when DBZ ended its run on Toonami. I had no idea where my next opportunity to watch the rest of the series would come from. Well, be careful what you wish for.
Do not obey in advance.But the way it ended was positive...despite Trunks' doings...
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Yes, just leave those other people who aren't lucky enough to be blood related to me to die...
He couldn't get to them in time. People say that as if he went out of his way not to get to them but Satan, Dende, and the dog where closer and he could just leave them.
Again, Vegeta didn't even try and to get any of them, and yet for some reason no one holds that against him.