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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#59151: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:08:38 PM

Hes not that bad.

He isn't the worst by a long shot as he doesn't show malevolence but he is still pretty bad with a tendency to neglect.

Satan and Krillian are seemingly the good dads of the series.

edited 18th Jun '17 9:09:42 PM by Memers

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#59152: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:09:00 PM

I think it's kind of weird how people nowadays attributing TFS to inventing the "Piccolo is Gohan's real dad" joke. That joke was old when I was in grade school.

edited 18th Jun '17 9:09:27 PM by KnownUnknown

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#59153: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:09:30 PM

And that it was technically Frieza threatening to blow Gohan the fuck up after he blew up Krillin what actually pushed Goku over the edge.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#59154: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:09:51 PM

I mean, I still like them and watch them, so I don't think it's a total deal breaker for me, but it's definitely kind of annoying how they're responsible for such warped interpretations in the first place.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#59155: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:09:51 PM

@Memers: Let's ignore Super for a moment and only examine the original manga.

When?

The only time I can think of is when he spent a year on Yardrat.

edited 18th Jun '17 9:10:22 PM by Zelenal

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#59156: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:12:10 PM

And decides to fly all the way back home, despite the fact he could have probably just teleported to Earth right from the start.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#59157: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:12:52 PM

Yeah, TFS didn't create the Piccolo is Goku's better dad thing, but they've definitely reinforced it by a lot.

Super complicates this discussion, like it does with everything.

[up]He probably couldn't. He needs to lock onto an energy signature to do that, and he probably wasn't good enough at it to do it from Yardrat all the way to Earth.

edited 18th Jun '17 9:14:22 PM by LSBK

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#59158: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:14:01 PM

To be fair, we don't know what the range on Goku's ki sensing was at that time. The only time we see in using interplanetary IT, it was after he had spent a year in the HTC and was done using another plane of reality as a midway point.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#59159: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:15:28 PM

He only went to King Kai's though because he didn't know which direction to search in to find New Namek; King Kai just pointed him in the right direction.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#59160: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:16:37 PM

Abridged fans in general who don't pay any real attention to the original manga and anime and then act like experts on the series hurt my soul. Part of me dies every time I see someone unironically want TFS to take over writing and dubbing of the full story of an official game.

edited 18th Jun '17 9:17:07 PM by LordVatek

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#59161: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:18:37 PM

Is it right for me to be annoyed when someone says there a DB fan but reveal that the only thing they watch is the Abridge?

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#59162: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:19:32 PM

To TFS's credit they've been very annoyed about comments that they're "better than canon" and from what I understand it's an easy way to piss Kaiser off. To be honest the only abridged series that can genuinely be called better than canon is Sword Art Online Abridged, for obvious reasons of course.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#59163: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:19:36 PM

@Memers: Let's ignore Super for a moment and only examine the original manga. When? The only time I can think of is when he spent a year on Yardrat.
The series opens with Goku leaving his 4 year old kid unattended in a forest with dinos and other huge threats. And ends with Goku up and leaving his family to go train some rando saying he might drop by every now and then.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#59164: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:19:55 PM

[up][up][up][up]Why? That sounds like it could be fun. Though of course they'd never be allowed to go full Abridged with it.

edited 18th Jun '17 9:20:02 PM by Moth13

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#59165: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:21:11 PM

[up][up] Ok that's a simplification on both parts.

For one thing that rando was the reincarnation of his then most powerful foe who would have made the perfect successor so he wouldn't have to right if the Earth was in danger again.

edited 18th Jun '17 9:22:06 PM by slimcoder

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#59166: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:21:49 PM

[up][up][up]That opening was only in the anime. Also not sure how that happened. As for the ending, Gohan was a grown man with his own family by that point, and Goten was close to it.

That works more against his husband cred than anything else, and I don't think there's anyone who claims that Goku is a good husband. Even then, if Chichi's cool with it, why shouldn't we be?

edited 18th Jun '17 9:23:38 PM by LSBK

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#59167: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:22:10 PM

And decides to fly all the way back home, despite the fact he could have probably just teleported to Earth right from the start.

That was Future Trunks' fault. Goku mentions when he touches down on Earth that he felt Frieza's ki and was going to IT down to take care of him, but suddenly it disappeared when Trunks killed him, making his flight take longer. Especially since everyone was suppressing their ki at that point.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#59168: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:23:02 PM

It does kind of mean something when, if the relationship actually existed in real life, a lot of people would see it as emotionally abusive.

[up] No, I meant teleport straight from the planet itself, because from what it sounds like, Goku was already in transit back to Earth in his space pod when Frieza and Cold showed up.

edited 18th Jun '17 9:24:16 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#59169: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:23:27 PM

[up]x3 I'd like to add that the first bit is not in the manga which is specifically what I'm talking about here.

Edit [nja]'d.

edited 18th Jun '17 9:24:46 PM by Zelenal

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#59170: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:24:30 PM

Even then, if Chichi's cool with it, why shouldn't we be?

Just because the characters in the story are written to see nothing wrong with Goku's behavior doesn't mean we have to agree with that.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#59171: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:24:37 PM

[up][up][up] On which side?

Cause if Goku's a little abusive then Chi-Chi can give it back. One example would be the end of the Saiyan Saga.

edited 18th Jun '17 9:24:50 PM by slimcoder

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#59172: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:25:17 PM

Why? That sounds like it could be fun. Though of course they'd never be allowed to go full Abridged with it.

Well as an unofficial mod or even an official DLC sure but like Dragon Ball FighterZ for instance, I've seen people want them to rewrite whatever the Japanese story mode and dialogue would be and make it like abridged which would be just awful.

edited 18th Jun '17 9:28:07 PM by LordVatek

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#59173: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:27:09 PM

Chichi's cool with it, why shouldn't we be?

I mean....just because Chi Chi's okay with Goku being a shit husband, doesn't mean we have to be....we can look at their relationship from an unbiased perspective.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#59174: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:27:52 PM

[up][up][up][up] and [up]True, but it's not like he's hurting anyone, and he's not disappearing from their lives, either.

edited 18th Jun '17 9:28:53 PM by LSBK

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#59175: Jun 18th 2017 at 9:28:37 PM

[up][up][up][up] Both sides; do recall that Goku's decision in the Cell Saga basically meant that Goku left Chichi pregnant with their second child, and Chichi would end up spending the next seven years raising two Saiyan children pretty much on her own, when Gohan wasn't most likely helping his mother raise Goten along with his studying, and without Goku there to help her like he was for Gohan.

edited 18th Jun '17 9:28:58 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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