If there's one positive we can take from Battle Of Gods, is that it's opened the door to the weird and wonderful alternate universes that exists in Dragon Ball, which are begging to be explored and if it's anything like the online comic, this will be very interesting... and quite possibly the greatest of example Fan Wank and Pandering to the Base ever.
edited 21st Mar '14 5:59:33 PM by FireShadow
Not even close. The DBU has already explicitly established alternate timelines in the Cell arc. What BOG has is OTHER universes, not alternate ones. As in, universes with entirely different rules and beings, rather than just a variant of this one. DBM runs on different timelines/alternate timelines, as shown by Future Trunks' timeline being counted as a universe.
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I think I already explained this, but the lack of sparks doesn't necessarily mean he's not a SS-2, especially in the anime. The hair differences are hard to pick out, but I just don't really see any reason to assume he's not a SS-2. Yet he still surpassed SS-3 Goku with rage, even though that violates how his own damn biology works (he doesn't get rage boosts, only Gohan does), because the writer of the movie is an self-admitted Vegeta fanboy.
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Majin Vegeta is exactly as strong as post-death Vegeta. And all that shows is that Vegeta's potential has either been already drawn out through normal training or is just outright pathetic, since Babidi's power-up was supposed to bring him beyond the limits of his own dormant potential, and all it did was make him like 25% stronger to match SS-2 Goku. Either way, it rather explicitly shows that his dormant power is nothing to write home about.
edited 21st Mar '14 6:16:18 PM by sockpuppet1
Yeeeeep... that's the reason that Vegeta gets the stupid rage boost, gets Character Shilling from Beerus and Goku, actually gets a proper fight with Beerus before he even gets the rage boost (where he somehow doesn't instantly die against the guy who supposedly KO'd Ultimate Gohan with one kick), and gets more screen time than any other character in the movie.
That must've burned you up inside, knowing Vegeta was essentially the star of the movie considering how much you despise his character and detest every moment he's onscreen.
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Are you really surprised shit like that happened? The guys who produced this movie are obsessed with putting in as many gags and humor as possible in anything Dragon Ball related. And when funny shit happens, every character get's dragged into it. Even Vegeta. Hell, there was one scene where Piccolo was (badly) singing Karaoke and Gohan got drunk challenged Mai to shoot him! Granted the bullets won't harm him, but still...
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My mistake, I guess I got the short end of the stick when it came to the right subtitled version of the movie that I watched. But still, the other idea of other universes does leave a lot to the imagination, don't you think?
edited 21st Mar '14 7:02:44 PM by FireShadow
Crossover Bait, too.
Maybe the world of Dragon Quest or Chrono Trigger is one of them.
That would be SO. FUCKING. AWESOME. If that actually happens, I think my head would explode from sheer delight.
And can you imagine that the ruler of all of the universes would be later revealed to be... Tori-Bot!? Now, that, would be spectacular!
But at the same time I have a horrible if that were the case, the joke would go over the heads of a large majority of the Dragon Ball fanbase and which could lead to huge Internet Backdraft or Hype Backlash. Not that the franchise has already suffered form this for several years, but that could be the worst case, and that's saying a lot...
edited 21st Mar '14 6:51:18 PM by FireShadow
*Sigh* And Vegeta is essentially considered the "Stone Cold Steve Austin" of shonen anime and manga. But then again, Stone Cold Steve Austin has done some weird shit over the years... but still remains a badass. Vegeta, on the other hand, well... GT pretty much treated him like a Butt-Monkey, so it could be worse.
Ah, who am I kiddin! He's still a cool, badass motherfucker no matter what happens!
edited 21st Mar '14 7:11:09 PM by FireShadow
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You do realize that means Lavos, aka the Time Devourer exists, right? Goku would never be able to beat him, simply because there are an infinite number of him that he can just pull out from the other timelines if he died. Hell, Beerus and Whis would also not be able to beat him because of that fact, so the entire DB Universe is fucked.
edited 21st Mar '14 7:04:00 PM by Ssj3Gojira
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!Vegeta? GT's Butt-Monkey? You kidding? At least he got to beat up Goku (albeit while possessed) and be fusion fodder. What did everyone else get? Aside from some minor moments for Uub, Pan, and Trunks?
I'm not saying he was the Butt-Monkey of GT, I'm saying he was one of the several Butt Monkeys in GT. I'm mean he wasn't even supposed to have such a huge supporting role in show originally, so I consider him one of the lesser Butt Monkeys of the show.
edited 22nd Mar '14 2:52:58 AM by FireShadow
It was a show about Goku, Pan, and their Universe's worth of worthless buttmonkey sidekicks.
My various fanfics.It would have been better if they let us see Adult Gotenks.
That would have rocked, especially since Trunks seemed more mature, and that might have balanced things out more (Goten was hard to gauge on whether he matured or not).
One Strip! One Strip!GT would have been better if they just removed Goku from the equation. Like, the plot of the series is that the bad guy kidnapped Goku and put him in a jar or somethin', so the rest of the cast is forced to step up and kick ass.
My various fanfics.Maybe Gohan as well, at least in one arc. Just to go "Hey, everyone. Remember how I'm the STRONGEST LIVING THING IN THIS UNIVERSE?"
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This, so much. I really wanted Adult Gotenks. And SSJ Pan, which still has never happened in any media ever. I swear they're doing it on purpose now.
GT should have kept to the original Dragon Ball feel except in space, and have some interesting fights just sprinkled in between finding Dragon Balls or something. And a really cool outer space remix of the original theme needs to be made, like immediately.
edited 22nd Mar '14 11:38:51 AM by ScorpioRat

Was Vegeta even Super Saiyan 2 when he fought Beers? I heard it was just Super Saiyan 1, for even more stupidity.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!