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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#58701: Jun 12th 2017 at 4:20:41 PM

Wait Goten tried to show off to Marron?

Huh that's a surprise.

[up] Cause no one is aging or in Bulma's case aging forward anymore apparently.

edited 12th Jun '17 4:21:48 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#58702: Jun 12th 2017 at 4:21:55 PM

[up] It was back when they were playing catch.

The thing that gets me about Goten and Trunks' stunted growth is that Gohan and Future Trunks had relatively normal growth rates.

edited 12th Jun '17 4:23:11 PM by Lionheart0

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#58703: Jun 12th 2017 at 4:22:15 PM

I don't think that's it since Maron isn't canon.

What makes you think that? Super has taken things from the Z anime before.

edited 12th Jun '17 4:23:19 PM by Moth13

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#58704: Jun 12th 2017 at 4:24:19 PM

[up] Because the arc she was introduced in was not canon either. It's the same reason you don't see Pikkon flying around in the afterlife or Freeza's men mentioning potentially reviving Cooler.

edited 12th Jun '17 4:24:46 PM by Lionheart0

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#58705: Jun 12th 2017 at 4:24:45 PM

[up][up][up] Oh shit I forgot about that.

Well I guess he is at that age even if he's not showing it.

Ya know its gonna be even weirder if we get to End of Z & they still look the same.

[up] Oh shit Cooler really isn't canon then cause he was never mentioned despite their dad being a possible revival.

edited 12th Jun '17 4:25:46 PM by slimcoder

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#58706: Jun 12th 2017 at 4:24:56 PM

The thing that gets me about Goten and Trunks' stunted growth is that Gohan and Future Trunks had relatively normal growth rates.

I guess that changed around the time Future Trunks gained his naturally blue hair.

edited 12th Jun '17 4:25:20 PM by VeryMelon

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#58707: Jun 12th 2017 at 4:35:33 PM

Because the arc she was introduced in was not canon either.

What does that have to do with anything? It's part of the anime canon so you can't rule it out.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#58708: Jun 12th 2017 at 4:37:07 PM

Ignoring all the other canon issues, if they haven't referenced her (or Garlic Jr. or Pikkon, or any of that) you probably shouldn't assume they're referencing it now.

Edit: Or maybe just don't expect Super to be consistent with things like that.

edited 12th Jun '17 4:37:53 PM by LSBK

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#58709: Jun 12th 2017 at 4:42:38 PM

Assuming one part might be a reference to something non-canon else doesn't mean you have to assume everything else is also. We already have non-canon elements in the show proper - Frieza having a body, Jaco, Super Kaioken. Yet we don't have Olibu, Garlic Jr, or Pikkon.

If it isn't a joke referring to Maron then 18 just threatened 17 for a simple mispronounciation which is... kind of less funny.

edited 13th Jun '17 5:16:55 AM by Soble

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#58710: Jun 12th 2017 at 4:50:59 PM

I enjoyed 17 and 18s interactions; things really haven't changed between them.

What I want is for Freeza to lift Krillin up with telekinises and scare the living shit out of him. Black Comedy like that is gold.

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UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#58711: Jun 12th 2017 at 5:23:05 PM

[up]Even funnier when Goku laughs along only after he starts crushing Frieza's trachea with one hand.

Goku: Oh Frieza, you're such a kidder! You can even keep that up while being strangled! Man, never knew you'd be so talented!

[up]x9: I am suddenly getting flashbacks to young Goku back in the original Dragon Ball.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#58712: Jun 12th 2017 at 6:33:24 PM

"Sir, now that you're back, should we revive Lord Cooler as well?"

"Who?"

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#58713: Jun 12th 2017 at 11:47:38 PM

That she's not canon doesn't mean they joke wasn't intended as a dig towards her. If anything, that makes it more likely that it was a Take That!.

edited 12th Jun '17 11:47:57 PM by KnownUnknown

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#58714: Jun 13th 2017 at 12:48:45 AM

To be fair, it isn't as though that some fans didn't read the manga and most got exposed to Dragon ball through the anime. Also, Marron didn't return to the series at all and outside of her fanservice appeal, she isn't very interesting.

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#58715: Jun 13th 2017 at 12:54:37 AM

I doubt Marron has any fanservice appeal whatsoever.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#58716: Jun 13th 2017 at 1:00:18 AM

She looks like a toddler...

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#58717: Jun 13th 2017 at 1:02:36 AM

Maron actually did show up again in filler during the Android Saga.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#58718: Jun 13th 2017 at 1:17:54 AM

Alright y'all, Dragon Ball FighterZ looks fucking amazing, but remember, this game is ASW's 4th foray into Dragon Ball. If you want to know who might make it into this game's roster, y'all should probably remember the rosters of their previous DB-related games...

    open/close all folders 
    Supersonic Warriors 
  • Goku (Base, Kaioken)
  • SSJ Goku
  • SSJ2 Teen Gohan
  • Ultimate Gohan
  • Piccolo
  • Kamiccolo (Base, w/ Kami)
  • True Piccolo (Base, w/ Demon King Piccolo)
  • Krillin
  • Kaioken Krillin (Base, Kaioken)
  • Vegeta
  • SSJ Vegeta
  • Majin Vegeta
  • SSJ Future Trunks
  • Ginyu
  • Frieza
  • Mecha Frieza
  • 18
  • Dr. Gero
  • Perfect Cell
  • Majin Buu
  • Super Buu
  • SSJ3 Gotenks
    Supersonic Warriors 2 (not including assists) 
  • Goku (Base, Kaioken)
  • SSJ Goku (SSJ, SSJ3)
  • Vegeta
  • SSJ Vegeta
  • Majin Vegeta
  • Teen Gohan (Base, SSJ)
  • SSJ2 Teen Gohan
  • Gohan (Base, SSJ, Ultimate)
  • Piccolo
  • Krillin (Base, Unlock Potential)
  • Future Trunks
  • SSJ Future Trunks (SSJ, Ultra SSJ)
  • Ginyu (Base, Goku)
  • Frieza (Final Form, Full Power)
  • Mecha Frieza
  • Dr. Gero
  • Semi-Perfect Cell
  • Perfect Cell
  • Gotenks (Base, SSJ)
  • SSJ3 Gotenks
  • Majin Buu
  • Super Buu
  • Cooler (Final Form, Further Form)
  • Meta-Cooler
  • Broly
    Extreme Butoden (not including assists) 
  • Goku (Base, Kaioken)
  • SSJ Goku (SSJ, SSJ3)
  • SSJG Goku (SSJG, Godly SSJ)
  • SSJB Goku
  • Teen Gohan
  • SSJ2 Teen Gohan
  • SSJ Gohan
  • Ultimate Gohan
  • Vegeta
  • SSJ Vegeta
  • SSJ Future Trunks
  • Piccolo
  • Krillin
  • Raditz
  • Nappa
  • Ginyu
  • Frieza
  • 18
  • Perfect Cell
  • Majin Buu
  • Kid Buu
  • SSJ Gotenks (SSJ, SSJ3)
  • Beerus
  • Bardock (Base, SSJ)
  • Broly

Surely what-if forms like Kaioken Krillin probably wont make it, but there's a good chance a majority of the characters listed above who have been in all 3 previous games will make it into DBFZ. Out of all of their DB games so-far, 15 characters in specific have been playable:

  • Goku
  • SSJ Goku (Confirmed)
  • SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Confirmed)
  • Ultimate Gohan
  • Vegeta
  • SSJ Vegeta (Confirmed)
  • SSJ Future Trunks
  • Piccolo
  • Krillin
  • Ginyu
  • Frieza (Confirmed)
  • 18
  • Perfect Cell (Confirmed)
  • Majin Buu (Confirmed)
  • Gotenks

Expect these characters in particular to appear.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#58719: Jun 13th 2017 at 1:37:20 AM

Heh Heh Wrong Maron. [nja]

"Mai waifu."
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#58720: Jun 13th 2017 at 2:28:02 AM

Why don't we just call him Super Saiyan 2 Kid Gohan? It's not like anyone would be confused by who we're talking about, and 9-11 hardly qualifies as a teenager.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#58721: Jun 13th 2017 at 4:59:00 AM

Kid Gohan is an entirely different character in the context of the games.

Teen Gohan is an Artifact Title, but there's no other way to distinct him from his younger or older selves.

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BigBlackBangBro Time Stranger Since: Sep, 2016
Time Stranger
#58722: Jun 13th 2017 at 5:05:44 AM

Always thought it was strange to call him Adult Gohan when we saw him in hight school. :3

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#58723: Jun 13th 2017 at 5:08:53 AM

9 years old Gohan is a Teen, 16 year old Gohan is Adult. Man, that boy sure grows up fast!

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#58724: Jun 13th 2017 at 5:36:02 AM

Given that he's just called "Gohan" in the gameplay seen so far, it could be that he's the only version of Gohan in the game. I'd hate not to have Ultimate Gohan, but it'd be worth it if it means not having multiple character slots for the same characters. But since Arc Sys apparently don't do alternate costumes (just palette swaps) I have a feeling we'll get SSB Goku/Vegeta at the very least as repeat characters.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#58725: Jun 13th 2017 at 5:48:18 AM

I feel like Gohan is the only one to warrant another slot since Ultimate Gohan at least has some justification. It's not even like he's a palette swap either compared to Blue Goku or Vegeta.

But those three are the only ones I'd be comfortable with taking two slots.

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