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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#58551: Jun 9th 2017 at 12:45:43 PM

More like Butoden... 7 or 8, I can't remember.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#58552: Jun 9th 2017 at 1:04:37 PM

I tried Extreme Butoden and it disappointed me. So I'll probably pass.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#58553: Jun 9th 2017 at 2:19:51 PM

Definitely hoping this feels more like Supersonic Waariors than Extreme Butoden.

But being a console game gives me more hope either way. Oh man, it better be on steam.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#58554: Jun 9th 2017 at 2:46:54 PM

It is.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#58555: Jun 9th 2017 at 2:52:48 PM

Sol Badguy for Guest Fighter, plz.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#58556: Jun 9th 2017 at 6:24:08 PM

So I had a thought:

You know how attacks could have more power than the person using them through the method of raising and lowering your ki?

This pretty much applied only to direct Ki attacks, but how come we never saw melee attacks that used this method either.

So that when throw a physical attack, and the other dude thinks ha! that won't work! and then ends up talking to the blazing energy fist or something like that.

I don't know. I'm probably not thinking it through far enough really. It's mostly just an idea.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#58557: Jun 9th 2017 at 6:26:11 PM

It happens in The Return of Cooler's Revengeance: The Reckoning, I do believe. It's also Vegeta's second unique ki attack in Legacy of Goku II.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#58558: Jun 9th 2017 at 6:41:13 PM

Really? When? That's kinda my signature DBZ movie (I've mentioned before that it was the first one I saw) and I don't recall anything like that.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#58559: Jun 9th 2017 at 7:02:09 PM

Pretty sure it's the "punch harder" thing.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#58560: Jun 9th 2017 at 7:09:04 PM

Oh yeah.

Well, it needed more glowing fist power.

Let mah boi Yusuke show you what I mean:

Hell, what happened to shit like this in Dragonball:

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Combine it with the stuff they learned later, and we'd have powerful melee attacks wouldn't we?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#58561: Jun 9th 2017 at 7:23:33 PM

Probably because punches are already using ki. It's all using ki.

Just because Yu Yu Hakusho has a technique for putting even more ki into a punch, doesn't mean that such a thing exists in DB. Goku's attack against Daimao was just a last ditch effort punch.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#58562: Jun 9th 2017 at 7:59:05 PM

If Frieza defects to another universe, that would actually be a smart move for him. He can't return to Universe 7's Hell if Universe 7 is destroyed, so he'll continue to exist in a state of undeath, immortal unless something "kills" him which would instead erase him so he doesn't have to endure Hell again. He should know Goku has no intention of honoring his request, so it's not like he really had a chance to be revived by staying on their team

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#58563: Jun 9th 2017 at 8:09:15 PM

[up][up] Still doesn't explain the random Great Ape imagery, or the fact that King Piccolo apparently noticed it himself.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#58564: Jun 9th 2017 at 8:17:35 PM

Goku's own aura flares at the same time, so we don't know what Piccolo's reacting to but it's likely just that. Imagery.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#58565: Jun 9th 2017 at 8:22:16 PM

The existence of the Ki Sword technique, which everyone used last arc and was an extension of Zamasu's Ki Chop, solidly establishes that physical attacks that are enhanced with Ki are a thing. Not to mention Hit's Ki blasting pressure point strikes.

edited 9th Jun '17 8:24:09 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#58566: Jun 9th 2017 at 8:31:49 PM

On the one hand, the Supersonic Warrior games were pretty great. Seeing something from the same developer has a good chance of being fun.

On the other hand, I really hope that Android 18 isn't completely useless this time around.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#58567: Jun 9th 2017 at 8:35:49 PM

As an alternative to this idea I had for Launch earlier, how about her blonde self still exists, but she's also a martial artist herself (and maybe gets some training from Roshi).

It would have both, retained her joke, and given her something resembling an arch (learning to deal with that other part of herself so she could fight in either form or something like that).

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#58568: Jun 9th 2017 at 8:37:20 PM

I thought playing as 18 was pretty fun, though I mained Krillin.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#58569: Jun 9th 2017 at 8:38:36 PM

[up][up] Eh. Not interested.

Lunch was a very one-note gag character that just stuck around too long.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#58570: Jun 9th 2017 at 8:39:44 PM

@Handsome:How about I plug the fanfic Break Through the Limit, where Launch's personalities merge into one being who has blue hair with blonde streaks (but to be honest, it's mostly Blonde Launch's personality on display). Then she learns the Kamehameha and Kaioken and briefly becomes the world's strongest human, even if she quickly loses that title to Tien.

@Supersonic Warriors 18: I could not beat her story mode no matter how hard I tried. Since she couldn't charge her ki, she had to build it by using melee attacks. Against Goku, that would lead to a quick death every. Single. Time. No other character had that problem.

edited 9th Jun '17 8:42:53 PM by MightyMatilda

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#58571: Jun 9th 2017 at 8:41:13 PM

You know, I wouldn't have been opposed to Launch learning Turtle Style alongside Krillin, Yamcha, and Goku.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#58572: Jun 9th 2017 at 8:41:33 PM

[up][up][up]Well, yeah.

I'm saying maybe she could have had a bit more character if he'd considered at least something of an arc for her. As it is, it seems like she's literally the only character in the series who was brought in entirely for a joke, as opposed to a joke being one part of their character.

I can't deny that Toriyama dropped the ball so hard with her, it cracked the floor. The only characters who was less important in his introduction was Chiaotzu, who Toriyama has never seemed to have a clue what to do with.

He should have either thought of something for her, or not waited so long to get rid of her.

edited 9th Jun '17 8:42:00 PM by HandsomeRob

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#58573: Jun 9th 2017 at 8:44:40 PM

Arcsys... Dragonball... Fighting Game...

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#58574: Jun 9th 2017 at 9:02:52 PM

[up][up] "I can't deny that Toriyama dropped the ball so hard with her, it cracked the floor."

I can. She wasn't meant to be an important character. Complain about Uranai Baba's ghost attendants not learning Kaio-ken if you're going to go that way.

I like that Toriyama didn't repeat the same joke with her every time, had the blonde Lunch get along with the others further into the series, and wrote her out when he was done with her.

Tertiary characters exist for a reason.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#58575: Jun 9th 2017 at 9:15:54 PM

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We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.

She never really should have been around as long as she was anyway. Getting rid of her when he was done is all well and good, but since she had zero relevance from the get go, he likely should have been done with her...after her first appearance.

But again, we're likely gonna disagree on this anyway, so there's not much point to going on with this.

...Naturally, I win the argument.

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