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sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#5826: Mar 21st 2014 at 1:37:25 PM

Too many plot holes, ass pulls, retcons, and Goku/Vegeta wank.

edited 21st Mar '14 1:38:04 PM by sockpuppet1

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#5827: Mar 21st 2014 at 1:49:38 PM

hey,if they focus on humor scenes,it could actually be good.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#5828: Mar 21st 2014 at 1:53:55 PM

Just enough ass pulls, very few glaring retcons, Goku and Vegeta are cool, shiny animation, and Bills is a neat personification of Can't Catch Up.

EDIT:

I could do without Pilaf's gang though. I was okay with them in GT due to how they were getting back to a comedic route, but their role in Battle of Gods was too forced. In GT they were old and still up to no good, so at least you felt like time had passed. In Battle of Gods they were de-aged for some reason.

But Battle of Gods also felt like an old man grabbing his old sketchbook and having fun with his old creations, kind of like what the creators of Ben 10 and Metal Gear Solid are doing. I don't sweat the inconsistencies unless they're glaring, like if Goku suddenly forgot he was a Super Saiyan.

[down]I dislike the name "Beerus", and I've gone from "Bills, to Beers, to Birisu, to Beerus". I'm sticking to Bills until the English dub comes out.

[up]And, unfortunately, part of that additional 20 minutes is going to focus on Pilaf's gang. Sigh. But at least we get to know a bit more about Bills and Whis.

edited 21st Mar '14 2:09:59 PM by FOFD

sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#5829: Mar 21st 2014 at 2:00:47 PM

The retcons that are there ruin the series retroactively if you take this movie into your personal canon, Goku and Vegeta are lousy and get WAY too much illogical Toei dick sucking, no one else matters (Krillin literally got two lines), Goku already couldn't catch up, his name is Beerus.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#5830: Mar 21st 2014 at 2:08:38 PM

I really didn't notice any glaring plot holes when I saw the movie, Goku and Vegeta were always the only ones who mattered in this series since the Buu Saga, Beerus was never a true villain to begin with, so I was okay with him being Goku's better, and the last thing isn't even a point.

[up][up] The english dub thing won't happen as long as Fox holds the distribution rights to the movie.

edited 21st Mar '14 2:17:43 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#5831: Mar 21st 2014 at 2:12:53 PM

Goku and Vegeta were completely irrelevant in the Buu Saga up until a last minute Ass Pull, but even then, other people did stuff. The majority of the work in defeating Buu was done by Mr. Satan, Mr. Buu, and Gohan.

I did.

Who said there was anything wrong with him being stronger than Goku? The problem is with Goku suddenly being ass-pulled into being stronger for everyone else for, like, 20 mintues. SSG is the dumbest thing ever. Yes. Dumber than Broly.

It wasn't supposed to be a point, just a correction.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#5832: Mar 21st 2014 at 2:21:53 PM

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Well then I'm sticking to Bills. tongue Why? "Because Goku didn't have the skills to pay the Bills".

I can't make that joke with a name like "beerus" or "beers".

...hmm. I remember Team Four Star making a joke about Goku grabbing a beer from the fridge, and a joke about Trunks handing out soda, beers, and HETAP. Maybe they can do something with that when they get to Battle of Gods. Anyway.

Bills > Beers.

Luffy > Ruffy.

Spirit Bomb > Genki Dama.

Milky Cannon > Special Beam Cannon > Makansoppo

Destructo Disk = Kienzan... I'm actually kind of torn on that one. Kienzan does sound cooler.

edited 21st Mar '14 2:27:03 PM by FOFD

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#5833: Mar 21st 2014 at 2:34:05 PM

[up] Milky Cannon is Ginyu's move, not Piccolo's.

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#5834: Mar 21st 2014 at 3:00:05 PM

I appreciate Battle Of Gods because it was nice subversion from what we usually get in Dragon Ball Z movie. It was funny, visually stunning and the fight scenes felt more Dragon Ball-ish than Dragon Ball Z-ish.

The movie also gave us Beerus, the most entertaining Dragon Ball villain ever. He must get his own spin-off show.

[up][up][up] Yeah I will agree, Super Saiyan God is a ridiculous Ass Pull of a transformation, but hey, I would have bet my house on Goku winning in that state... and he didn't. Which kinda shocked the shit out of me when I first watched the movie online. I thought to myself for a second, "Are we gonna get a Downer Ending?!" but then I realized, "It's Dragon Ball, shit like that will never happen in the franchise."

...Unless there is a Dragon Ball Z movie or spin-off series written by Gen Urobuchi.

edited 21st Mar '14 5:29:10 PM by FireShadow

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#5835: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:22:43 PM

I'm sure Toei will let him do it after Kamen Rider Gaim.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#5836: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:23:46 PM

The fight scenes were terrible. Absolutely god awful, although everything in the movie was shit once the serious stuff started. I'm at least interesting in the extra stuff about Beers/Whis' relationship in the extra 20 minutes but from preview clips it looks like some of that extra is being wasted on shit like the Vegeta/Beers battle.

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#5837: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:25:27 PM

How do you classify a good fight scene then?

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#5838: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:27:01 PM

Didn't care for the fight scenes, but I loved everything else.

[up]The fight scenes felt very generic anime "OH THIS IS SO AWESOME!" instead of feeling like Toriyama. The way Toriyama does his fight scenes have a very specific "feel" and I didn't get that looking at Battle of the Gods' (probably because he didn't handle those).

edited 21st Mar '14 4:28:19 PM by Cruherrx

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#5839: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:29:51 PM

More like it's the fact that he invented that "OMG THIS IS SO AWESOME" feel, and you can't accept that?

I honestly didn't see anything different with the fights, they were just higher budget.

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#5840: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:31:15 PM

Dude, just deal with it. It's not the same as the fights Toriyama penciled himself.

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#5841: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:34:17 PM

And it doesn't matter.

I'm not the one saying "deal with it" here.

I didn't see any difference, just a higher budget.

You're not being specific enough about the "Toriyama" feel.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#5842: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:35:42 PM

If you can't see any difference it's unlikely that this conversation will go anywhere.

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#5843: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:46:14 PM

Does it mater if I see a difference?

If not, then there's no point in trying to convince me.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
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#5845: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:48:11 PM

I do, but I try not to let make this series as "Serious Buisiness" compared to some others on this site.

They are still cool, though.

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alEKos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#5846: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:48:18 PM

[up][up]the mods.

edited 21st Mar '14 4:49:34 PM by alEKos23

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#5847: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:53:05 PM

Ya know, if SSJ-2 Vegeta was able to surpass SSJ-3 Goku, even if for a small while, imagine if he was given the SSJG state...

It's gotta be the power of love. tongue

edited 21st Mar '14 4:53:40 PM by Rinsankajugin

alEKos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#5848: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:55:45 PM

are ya reffering to the Kid Buu fight/stalling?

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#5849: Mar 21st 2014 at 4:58:13 PM

Nah, B-o-G. Though, Majin Vegeta might have been another glimpse at the potential SSJ-2 Vegeta could have hold. Gotta love power through raw emotion.

edited 21st Mar '14 4:58:48 PM by Rinsankajugin

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#5850: Mar 21st 2014 at 5:03:57 PM

But Majin SS2 Vegeta wasn't any stronger than SS2 Goku (or SS2 Vegeta post death).

edited 21st Mar '14 5:04:14 PM by Saiga


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