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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#58176: Jun 4th 2017 at 4:49:14 PM

Kale went pretty chill after Cauli assured her that she wasn't into Cabba.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#58177: Jun 4th 2017 at 4:50:17 PM

I mean, there's Gohan and Future Trunks, and most hybrids really.

Also, the fact that only Frieza was mentioned to not be repentful for what he has done, and thus is still stuck in Hell, means that literally ever other villain killed on Earth, including King Cold, Cell, Babidi, and Dabura, have all moved on and repented now, and have probably reincarnated as humans by now.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#58178: Jun 4th 2017 at 4:52:46 PM

It just occurred to me that seeing Caulifla and Vegeta interact would be lots of fun.

Caulifla seems like she's used to getting her way in everything, but Vegeta wouldn't take any crap from her.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#58179: Jun 4th 2017 at 4:57:29 PM

Caulifla seems to be a delinquent archetype (right down to the "hunched over, hands on hips/pockets" pose), which is pretty interesting since I've never seen an anime commit to using a female character with that personality type before.

Which makes her an interesting contrast to Vegeta, who would probably find her uncouth.

edited 4th Jun '17 4:59:16 PM by KnownUnknown

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#58180: Jun 4th 2017 at 4:58:45 PM

Never heard of a Sukeban? They're rarer, but that's generally what a female Japanese Delinquent resembles.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#58181: Jun 4th 2017 at 5:00:43 PM

Is it the same kind of aesthetic and personality tropes, though?

Looking it up, it doesn't quite look like the kind of character type Caulifla is making me think of. The first thing I thought of when I saw her in motion, for example, was this.

It's like designing a female character with the tropes more generally associated with a Spear Counterpart in mind (or vice versa), which isn't that common in anime. Granted, it's not that common over here, either...

edited 4th Jun '17 5:05:12 PM by KnownUnknown

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#58182: Jun 4th 2017 at 5:02:36 PM

Wait Frieza is the only villain in Hell?

Everyone else has been reincarnated?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#58183: Jun 4th 2017 at 5:04:17 PM

Well it was stated that Frieza didn't want to repent, so he was stuck in Hell; no other villain was ever specified along with him, so it's possible they've managed to leave Hell. Which means Cell is now either a normal human or one of the animal people walking around.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#58184: Jun 4th 2017 at 5:05:55 PM

Actually, I think Dabura is in Heaven. For a demon, there's no greater torment.

[up]I see Cell repenting, but King Cold? Doubtful.

edited 4th Jun '17 5:07:23 PM by UdtheImp

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#58185: Jun 4th 2017 at 5:06:29 PM

I love how the very reason that they can still use Freeza is the perfect reason why they shouldn't. The guy is literally so evil and full of spite that he's resisting the natural process of resurrection.

If I didn't think Goku was lying about wishing him back to life, I'd call him out on being a dumbass. Hell, giving Freeza even a little bit of rope is pretty stupid, but at least he's not as ignorant about it as he seems.

edited 4th Jun '17 5:07:22 PM by KnownUnknown

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#58187: Jun 4th 2017 at 5:10:20 PM

"I LIVE AGAIN!"

"Kaiouken times ten!"

"Wait what-"

-DEAD FOREVER-

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#58188: Jun 4th 2017 at 5:15:47 PM

Oh heck, the discussion changed.

Regardless, I wholeheartedly agreed with the Team Four Star's throwaway line that Broly should have targetted Vegeta (or, at least, split the focus more on him). It was King Vegeta's fault for getting him nearly killed, why not target his offspring who's managed to survive "happily" despite being a second fiddle power wise to Goku?

In regards to Kale, I interpreted the "yandere" thing as a catalyst, but not the cause. It felt more like a self-preservation/self-worth thing. Before transforming, she kept whining about how lowly she thought of herself more so than "I don't like the way you two are acting together! I hate your guts Cabba for doing this!". That happened afterward.

Correct me as a casual, but didn't Vegeta go through a similar stage back in Z when he realized that Goku, who would normally be a peasant on the homeworld, can overpower the last remaining royal blood by reaching Super Saiyan (when he himself couldn't no matter what he did, originally)? I think Kale is going through a similar arc, hence why she probably joined up with Caulifla's gang to hopefully improve herself.

Still, at least Kale's Beserker Mode's personality is more Superpowered Evil Side than the original Broly, there's more of a chance on potentially fleshing her out. If not this arc, maybe the next or Toyotarō's canon. A lot of Universe 6's development here felt more like a strapped for time issue.

edited 4th Jun '17 5:16:29 PM by XMenMutant22

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#58189: Jun 4th 2017 at 5:32:27 PM

Yeah, it did. It does that a lot when gender comes up in Dragonball.

And as such, since this got buried at the bottom of the page, I'm throwing it up again:

Apparently there was a fan manga where Trunks went back in time to the Saiyan Saga by mistake:

     

edited 4th Jun '17 5:32:44 PM by Soble

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#58190: Jun 4th 2017 at 5:35:18 PM

I watched the video and the idea isn't that impressive. Trunks would just immediately leave, since it's so far in the past that it will take years for anything to happen that will affect Trunks in any way.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#58191: Jun 4th 2017 at 5:43:31 PM

Wait Frieza is the only villain in Hell? Everyone else has been reincarnated?

A little late on this one, but that seems to be the idea. It is pretty hilarious that Frieza is such an evil dick that everyone else just gave up and let themselves be reincarnated, while he just insisted on remaining evil.

Kinda brings us back to how Frieza is one of the few who chose to be evil, while most of the rest of them were either made that way, or somewhat forced into it in some way.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#58192: Jun 4th 2017 at 5:45:03 PM

I mean, King Cold was also evil of his own free will, same as Babidi and Dabura, who's literally the Satan of this world.

edited 4th Jun '17 5:45:14 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#58193: Jun 4th 2017 at 5:45:43 PM

Well that's sad cause that means that unless we meet his reincarnation like with Uub then Cell really is gone forever.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#58194: Jun 4th 2017 at 5:51:39 PM

...it's not like Reborn Cell could have done anything, the only reason Uub has Pure Buu's powers at all is because Goku asked King Yenma to do that for him when Buu was getting killed. Cell wouldn't have any of his powers or memories in his next life, the plate has been wiped completely clean for him.

Also, this brings up a pretty massive plothole now; if King Yenma seemingly only has jurisdiction for people who have died on Earth, as has been implied in this episode and suggested with the "Earth's Hell" thing, then how was King Yenma even able to acquire Buu soul to allow him to reincarnate as Uub, when he died on the Sacred World of the Kais, and not on Earth?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#58195: Jun 4th 2017 at 5:57:38 PM

[up]

...Well, The world of the Supreme Kais is in the Afterlife.

I mean, King Cold was also evil of his own free will, same as Babidi and Dabura, who's literally the Satan of this world.

Nonsense! Old King Cold was a merry old soul...

<Is bricked>

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#58196: Jun 4th 2017 at 6:00:59 PM

It's suppose to be outside of the universe though, or at least outside the Living Realm/Afterlife duo of the universe anyway. Plus, if there's apparently multiple Afterlifes now, what was keeping Pure Buu's soul from entering any of the other Afterlifes besides Earth's?

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#58197: Jun 4th 2017 at 6:05:45 PM

Also, last we heard Dabura went to Heaven.

And in the old Universe model the Sacred World of the Kais is sorta orbiting the rest of the universe in its own bubble thingy.

Dunno how that works with the 12 universes exactly.

edited 4th Jun '17 6:06:38 PM by unnoun

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#58198: Jun 4th 2017 at 6:06:27 PM

That was supposed to be an ironic punishment though.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#58199: Jun 4th 2017 at 6:07:14 PM

Still where he is. As opposed to Hell, where Frieza is.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#58200: Jun 4th 2017 at 6:17:19 PM

Except that was only ever in anime filler; the fact Dabura was never brought back by the Dragon Balls, even though he had completely reformed by that point, kind of should clue one in that him going to Heaven never really happened.

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