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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#58101: Jun 4th 2017 at 12:00:58 AM

I think the point is that Caulifla is some kind of Super Saiyan prodigy, able to access the transformations in a completely different way than anyone else and access them much easier than anyone else. Kale is obviously a prodigy in her own right, in a completely different way.

Both of them are true Super Sand Lesbians.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#58102: Jun 4th 2017 at 12:12:35 AM

Speaking of, i'm already seeing a lot of cute Caulifla x Kale art.

[up]×5

You're right, Gotenks did it of screen, so it isn't similar and no one explained them how to do it.

edited 4th Jun '17 12:18:24 AM by Cortez

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#58103: Jun 4th 2017 at 12:28:44 AM

I said Caulifla was getting close to Mary Sue territory, I didn't say she was one. If either her or Kale end up showing up in the tournament as either Super Saiyan Gods or Super Saiyan Blues, without having done either the ritual or training with Vados, that's the point where they would both be Mary Sues.

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#58104: Jun 4th 2017 at 12:28:59 AM

Shit, that was starting before Kale blushed while looking at Caulifla and Caulifla smiling at Kale in her arms.

Poor Cabba. Thought he was gonna get a love interest. Got fucked instead.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#58105: Jun 4th 2017 at 12:31:39 AM

Caulifla carrying and smiling at Kale was cute.

[up]×2

Still, that term is used far too loosely.

edited 4th Jun '17 12:38:29 AM by Cortez

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#58106: Jun 4th 2017 at 12:48:08 AM

Also, the Son of Sharknado said a few pages back that if the genders of the U6 Saiyans were flipped, people would rage absurdly hard. In addition to the things others have said regarding female representation in Dragon Ball, I'd like to mention that the subsequent hate would die down really fast if the homosexual implications between the two new Saiyans still existed.

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#58107: Jun 4th 2017 at 1:16:35 AM

I wonder who the last three members for Universe 6 will be, since with Caulifla and Kale, they still only have Seven.

I'm kinda hoping we get to see a U6 Namekian.

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#58108: Jun 4th 2017 at 1:23:29 AM

In keeping with the U6 Tradition, they're a savage, carnivorous bloodthirsty race of blue-skinned warrior women with terrible hearing who don't consume any liquid and have children by shoving their fists through their mates.

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#58109: Jun 4th 2017 at 1:25:59 AM

But that's just the normal way to have children.

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#58110: Jun 4th 2017 at 1:36:13 AM

Where were you taught sex ed?

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#58111: Jun 4th 2017 at 1:36:59 AM

...clearly you didn't get the euphemism.

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#58112: Jun 4th 2017 at 1:37:39 AM

Isn't that a joke?

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#58113: Jun 4th 2017 at 2:17:32 AM

Beyond that, i wonder what Champa would pick.

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#58114: Jun 4th 2017 at 4:21:43 AM

I see a pretty big argument over nothing happened. Business as usual when it comes to Super.

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#58115: Jun 4th 2017 at 6:08:45 AM

Wow, all this talk of Cauli and Kale distracted everyone from the fact that U4 has spies in every participating universe, and Quitela's the one who riles Sidra into attacking U7.

That right there is some pretty big plot development. Its almost as if the whole "lesbian Super Saiyan power level" discussion was predicted to happen and Toei/Toriyama milked as the perfect smokescreen......

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#58116: Jun 4th 2017 at 6:27:41 AM

[up] Not to mention the Fridge Brilliance that Quileta is a natural enemy for Beerus since he's a mouse and Beerus is a cat.

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#58117: Jun 4th 2017 at 7:25:14 AM

I like how the preview went: "Hey! Don't kill the-MASSIVE EXPLOSION"

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#58118: Jun 4th 2017 at 8:16:48 AM

So I had some time to think. I rather literally slept on it and I don't mind Caulifla anymore. Removed from the mythology and mysticism, Super Saiyan is a technique. It's a technique that has very specific qualifiers, but it's a technique. And what are Saiyans really good at figuring out?

And Caulifla is the Goku of Universe 6. Goku mastered the Kamehameha, a technique that too Master Rpshi fifty years to develop, after seeing it once. He's better at Kaiouken than the guy who invented it. Sound familiar?

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#58119: Jun 4th 2017 at 11:25:50 AM

[up]×4

That's pretty brilliant if you think about it, since if the worst happens Sides will be the one to get in trouble.

And sending spies isn't breaking the rules it seems.

edited 4th Jun '17 11:27:28 AM by Cortez

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#58120: Jun 4th 2017 at 11:29:07 AM

This assassin plot in far more interesting to speculate about.

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#58121: Jun 4th 2017 at 11:30:44 AM

I'm thinking that one mortal who's stronger than their Universe's Hakaioshin, who is in turn stronger than Beerus, won't actually be in the tournament because they're from one of the four Universes that aren't competing. Whis mentioning them here is just foreshadowing for a future arc where they're the primary antagonist.

edited 4th Jun '17 11:31:23 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#58122: Jun 4th 2017 at 12:01:15 PM

[up] Not Hakaioushin, just Hakaishin. Destruction God, not Destruction King God.

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#58123: Jun 4th 2017 at 12:03:36 PM

...And then it's revealed that there are Hakai-Ou-Shin (Destruction King Gods) who are even more powerful than the Hakaishin (Destruction Gods/ Gods of Destruction).

Because that's how Bird Mangaka rolls.

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#58124: Jun 4th 2017 at 12:06:06 PM

Huh. So it is. I thought it was Hakaioshin because than it would be a pun in conjunction with Kaioshin. I just assume that everything Toriyama names is some kind of pun, in some way, even if it's just minor wordplay.

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#58125: Jun 4th 2017 at 12:21:44 PM

I was hoping for Cabba to get a girlfriend.

Get cucked by two lesbians.

Jeez, is he worse than Yamcha getting cucked by his killer?

Joking aside, the animation was pretty off model in this episode, and while we have seen Kale berserk mode, we still haven't truly met her, since this episode is just a point per point copy of Broly. I think is the point, just to further illustrate how they are counterparts, but I wish to see where are they different, other than Broly hating Karrot, Kale loving Collyflower.

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