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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#57901: Jun 1st 2017 at 11:58:02 AM

[up][up][up]no? the games very specifically call out when stuff didn't happen. in xenoverse 1 they say that all the GT content takes place in a timeline very different from the main one, and xenoverse 2's whole thing is that villains that never showed up in the main timeline (since the movies never happened) are suddenly appearing in it and changing history.

[up][up]i agree with you for the most part, since most of the movies directly contradict canon at points, but the broly movies fit in nicely save for a few moments where the themes of the movie and where it should be in the show don't match up.

also they don't forget cell, in the beginning of the first movie they even say that it's the week before the cell games iirc (i could be wrong though, so)

edited 1st Jun '17 12:00:09 PM by EpicBleye

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#57902: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:00:17 PM

Which is weird, since main timeline Frieza is apparently aware of Cooler's existence/relationship to him, despite the fact that he doesn't exist in that timeline at all.

Also, only movies I see as being the easiest to fit into the main continuity would be the Bojack movie, the first two Broly movies, the first Cooler movie, and the Hirudegarn movie; everything else just have way too many problems to even try fitting into it.

edited 1st Jun '17 12:02:03 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#57903: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:04:18 PM

I still think trying to debate DB canon is an exercise in futility; it's like trying to debate Super Mario Bros. canon.

Every piece of DB material is canon only to itself and whatever other materials reference it. It's better to think of it as a bunch of independent pieces rather than trying to weave together the "one true canon".

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57904: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:04:33 PM

Just because something could technically fit doesn't mean it does. Broly is never referenced outside his own movies and the games.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#57905: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:05:27 PM

until now, that is

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57906: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:08:41 PM

Are these characters actually Broly? If not the point stands. That they're bortowing from those movies does not in itself mean the movies happened to the characters. Ideas get recycled all the time.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#57907: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:10:48 PM

Wouldn't be the first time a (theoretically) canon villain was never referenced again.

Right, Radish?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57908: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:13:03 PM

Raditz never appeared again but he was directly mentioned multiple times after his death.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#57909: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:17:35 PM

i mean

if they compare caulifla to broly we'll have our answer

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57910: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:20:08 PM

Again you are conflating two different things.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#57911: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:21:38 PM

If that happens I'm quitting.

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#57912: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:21:55 PM

how? if the z-fighters compare caulifla to broly then we know that they had to have fought broly at some point making the movies canon

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#57913: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:22:40 PM

Because Broly is stupid and his movies are stupid.

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#57914: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:24:56 PM

but his power is maximum!

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57915: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:25:09 PM

Misinterpreted what you meant. Still, there's no reason to assume they're actually going to do that.

Furthermore, with there being two iteratations of Super, being written any talk of. "canon" doesn't have much meaning.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#57916: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:25:13 PM

Eh compared to some of the other stuff in this in this franchise, he's not that stupid.

[up][up] Maximum-er.

edited 1st Jun '17 12:25:42 PM by slimcoder

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#57918: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:30:08 PM

I'm thinking they might take a Broad Strokes approach to Broly.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#57919: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:53:09 PM

I honestly love Broly and his unique form. Give us more Broly, and give us more Kale!

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#57920: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:54:55 PM

See if it's in the manga. If not, fuck Toei. If it is, fuck Super.

Pffft..... haheheh.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#57921: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:59:40 PM

I mean, wasn't Toriyama the one who designed the Legendary Super Saiyan form in the first place?

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#57922: Jun 1st 2017 at 1:05:57 PM

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I think you mean Kale, not Caulifla. Kale is the one that goes super buff as Super Saiyan.

And there has been no mention besides in that article.

edited 1st Jun '17 1:07:18 PM by Cortez

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#57923: Jun 1st 2017 at 1:54:00 PM

I'm not just talking about the form itself. I'm talking about when Goku and the crew see it.

There's at least two possibilities. No reaction, or at least none of familiarity, as a way to be firm that Broly never happened, or, if he did exist in Universe 7, the movies didn't happen and they never met him. Maybe he had a heart attack or something. Caught that nasty heart virus.

Or they flat out say "hey, she looks just like that Broly guy". Or some variation thereof. Which would pretty much establish the Broly films as having happened to the versions of Goku and the rest in Super.

This is all a hypothetical scenario, because Kale hasn't even transformed in the show yet, much less been seen transforming by Goku and the others.

But presumably she will be seen at the tournament. And if it gets commented on there. I want to know what people would think ahead of time.

Half of what most of these people did in the original manga was stand on the sidelines and talk about what's happening and how strong this fighter is or what this technique is or how similar this is to the last time that other thing happened.

edited 1st Jun '17 1:59:18 PM by unnoun

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#57924: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:02:58 PM

They might also be annoyingly coy about it. Like:

Gohan: Hey Dad! Does she look familiar to you?

Goku: Hmm... now that you mention it...

And then he gets interrupted and it's never brought up again.

Either way if it happens I won't care too much. I don't have the burning hatred of Broly that others seem to have and think his concept and design are neat even if they didn't work in practice.

edited 1st Jun '17 2:04:30 PM by LordVatek

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#57925: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:08:12 PM

I have a burning hatred for Broly and a deep and abiding love of his concept and design.

...Or, at least.

...For some reason I think Kale looks better as a Legendary Super Saiyan than he ever did.

...I mean, Paragus has a more compelling motive than Broly ever did, and he died in the first movie and didn't do much to begin with. So we're left with Broly's dumb bullshit.

He's literally mad because Goku cried as a baby. It's just. So lame.

edited 1st Jun '17 2:11:57 PM by unnoun


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