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DS9guy Since: Jan, 2001
#57701: May 29th 2017 at 7:40:59 AM

Mistare Fusion finally talks about Battle Powers (Power Levels).

UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#57702: May 29th 2017 at 7:49:35 AM

[up][up].......well THAT'S freakishly ominous.....o_o

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HITTING HELPY!!
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57703: May 29th 2017 at 7:56:54 AM

"But at the end of the day, that doesn't prove that battle powers are wrong. It proves that relying on incorrect or incomplete battle powers is wrong. Because there's really never any kind of indication in the story that readings not blocked or interfered with by a character are anything but accurate. There's never even a hint that Ki can't be represented by a numerical value."

I've never heard of Mistare Fusion until today, but I like him.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#57704: May 29th 2017 at 8:09:03 AM

This dude kinda summed up my feeling on Battle Powers.

[up] Me too.

edited 29th May '17 8:09:45 AM by HandsomeRob

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57705: May 29th 2017 at 8:10:11 AM

I bet that makes you real happy.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#57706: May 29th 2017 at 8:12:00 AM

I am dancing on air. I will not lie.

We've had this discussion before, though even I'll admit that it's been said that it wasn't just Battle powers, but Frieza himself having such a high battle power that caused these problems. He was the one who caused the numbers to bloat to such a degree.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57707: May 29th 2017 at 8:13:23 AM

Frankly I just think numbers are a bad way to measure power. I much prefer letters like Yu Yu Hakusho, or even what One Punch Man did with animals.

edited 29th May '17 8:13:30 AM by VeryMelon

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#57708: May 29th 2017 at 8:46:57 AM

Using numerical values was always flawed, however they did point out how strong someone is relative to another. But it was still pretty vague overall...

As for Super; you technically don't have to watch the first two arcs if you already saw the movies. I skipped them when they first aired because it was a waste of time. That said, I recommend watching the dub if only to see the script changes as they at least make dialogue more enjoyable to listen to. '

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#57709: May 29th 2017 at 11:18:19 AM

I'll see if i can find the dub anywhere, then, and watch it that way

probably will have it playing in the background if anything though

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#57710: May 29th 2017 at 11:30:37 AM

The dub is way better. Schemmel has never been better as King Kai. I remember when Episode 5 aired on Toonami and the reaction was mostly positive compared to the negativity about the original Japanese airing.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#57712: May 29th 2017 at 11:35:53 AM

I think they did? Can't remember.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#57713: May 29th 2017 at 11:37:29 AM

Yeah, it uses the Blu-ray animation.

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#57714: May 29th 2017 at 11:51:43 AM

The Super dub does have some great improvisations too. Like Vegeta's "Oh sure, let's go see Yamcha!", King Kai's "No fighting, no insulting, no Vegeta-ing of any kind!", or Goku going "Woooaaaaaaahhh-I forgot my tractor-ooooooooaaaaaahhh!" after being "punched out of the ring" by Mr. Satan.

edited 29th May '17 11:55:42 AM by DarkHunter

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#57715: May 29th 2017 at 11:55:53 AM

It should be stated that King Kai's seiyuu was 85 years old when he was voicing the character during the first few episodes, and had to be replaced due to medical reasons. Two years later, and he still hasn't come back.

edited 29th May '17 11:58:31 AM by Ssj3Gojira

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#57716: May 29th 2017 at 11:56:17 AM

Masako X weighs in on the sleeping Buu gag.

I'd actually forgotten he failed the test in the manga instead of falling asleep, but even if it's not doing the same thing, it's...kinda still the same thing. They claimed Buu would join the fight, then cut him out before that time even came. We'll see how the manga handles it soon enough, but even if they go in a different direction for how it happens, it's clear that Buu not fighting is on the agenda.

My ultimate issue is, if they are gonna cut him out, just do it. Just be straight with us about who's doing what instead of stringing us along.

Also, he forgot about how both version of Resurrection F had Buu fall asleep just before the battle to create more tension.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#57717: May 29th 2017 at 12:01:10 PM

[up]×2

Yeah, i can't really blame him for that. Also, hope he's ok.

By the way, who do you guys think should voice Caulifla and Kale in the dub?

[up] Though at least this time we saw him fight in the Zen Exhibition fight against Universe 9.

edited 29th May '17 12:02:43 PM by Cortez

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#57718: May 29th 2017 at 12:40:44 PM

In any case, Super is an acquired taste; You either like it or you don't. It's that simple really.

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UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#57719: May 29th 2017 at 12:55:37 PM

I keep thinking that Buu falling asleep at critical moments like these might actually be a deeper plot point later on.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#57720: May 29th 2017 at 1:01:49 PM

@Very Melon: The slice of Life in those arc were good though.

ShadowAbyss Since: Dec, 2010
#57721: May 29th 2017 at 1:03:32 PM

I don't get why everybody is so quick to go blame Toei as soon as something that the fans don't like happens.

I understand complaints about animation, but when something regarding the plot happens, isn't it actually Toriyama's fault? After all, he is the one in charge of writing that anime. Sometimes I feel like this fandom likes to make Toei this franchise's Dinkleberg. Face it guys, he is not perfect.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57722: May 29th 2017 at 1:07:10 PM

[up][up]I'm sure to someone that cares about that, it is.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#57723: May 29th 2017 at 1:07:23 PM

[up][up]I'm at least waiting to see how things go down in the Super Manga, as I haven't ruled out Toriyama being responsible yet.

While the method of Buu's elimination in the two version of the Universe 6 Tournament were different, he still wrote that Buu didn't actually get to fight, so we can assume there's going to be something similar going down with the manga version of the Tournament of Power.

I think Toei has hurt their credibility with how they've handled some things though, so it's easy to jump down their throats.

edited 29th May '17 1:07:31 PM by HandsomeRob

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#57724: May 29th 2017 at 1:16:38 PM

Indeed.

As for Battle Power for the Frieza arc, it makes me wonder how Piccolo was able to match 2nd Form Frieza despite his power being somewhere near Nail's. Also, how is Vegeta able to match Frieza's suppressed form?

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#57725: May 29th 2017 at 1:23:02 PM

The first is because Fusion is a cheap trick to make weak Namekians stronger, and the second is because Zenkais increase your power by Plot%.


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