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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#57676: May 28th 2017 at 8:58:11 PM

I wonder if they're going to do a thing where it all starts out with everybody fighting for themselves (and/or ganging up on Goku), but then during the tournament Kale loses control and everyone has to put their differences aside to stop her from clearing out all of them. Except Freeza, who decides the use the situation to his own advantage because he's a dick.

Actually, semi-unrelated theory, but this whole thing being a Secret Test of Character by Zeno to see if the universes can make themselves worthy of surviving and/or overcome their selfishness (with those who can't getting erased - this is Zeno, after all) would be interesting. That comment by the Grand Priest in the latest episode chiding the universes for all only caring about themselves made me wonder.

edited 28th May '17 8:58:46 PM by KnownUnknown

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#57677: May 28th 2017 at 9:39:25 PM

What if all the universes agree to ring out simultaneously?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#57678: May 28th 2017 at 9:48:35 PM

They all get destroyed.

Especially that one universe. Y'all know the one.

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#57679: May 28th 2017 at 11:55:06 PM

so i started watching super and i cant really say I'm enjoying it

the animation is incredibly lackluster and i dislike how super is potraying the events of battle of gods

like, beerus legit just looks like a really bad guy rather than a god that's doing his job, and the movie was better about showing beerus as a character and wanting to find goku because he wa curious

also i have to watch it subbed because of stupid broadcasting bs

is there much point to rewatching what the movies already covered or is it just the same thing but worse?

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#57680: May 29th 2017 at 12:07:23 AM

It's basically just the movies but worse. You're better off doing what I'm doing and waiting for the dub to get to the U6/U7 tournament.

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#57681: May 29th 2017 at 12:09:49 AM

I think with Beerus they were attempting to give him a bit more of a character arc. Show him as starting off worse but undergoing Character Development, something the movies didn't really have time to do.

Just a guess on my part, and I'll leave it as an exercise to the viewer as to whether they're succeeding with that, assuming that's their intention.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#57682: May 29th 2017 at 12:17:38 AM

i will say that there is a bunch of extra detail in super that the movies lacked but it feels incredibly superficial

like, the scenes aren't entirely meaningless but they feel more like they're there to pad run time than anything else

but yeah i think I'm just gonna wait for the dub to catch up and watch it then. i really only wanted to watch the anime since Xenoverse 2's DLC entirely focuses on Super, and i think i'd appreciate it a bit more if i understood what exactly i was fixing and who these new characters were

i mean, in-game explained it well enough but still

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#57683: May 29th 2017 at 12:21:09 AM

Just wait till the Dub gets to the Champa Arc, that's where the new shit starts.

Though the Resurrection F Arc does introduce Champa & Vados so you should watch the beginning or so.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#57684: May 29th 2017 at 12:24:53 AM

The battle with Beerus isn't as good as the movie version either. There are some good bits but also a lot of dumb ones and it drags on.

I really do like the dub though. The voice acting is great and a lot of the lines are funnier.

edited 29th May '17 12:25:37 AM by Moth13

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#57685: May 29th 2017 at 12:29:16 AM

I'll have to go find the episode introducing champa

but yeah the animation is actually really really terrible. it's not like the original series' animations weren't though so it's not like it's something new

but the sub's voice acting is genuinely terrible. king kai especially.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#57686: May 29th 2017 at 12:51:07 AM

The animation's actually pretty solid now. Sometimes its even beautiful.

That being said, despite being one of the biggest anime/manga franchises ever, Toei really isn't Super the same level of animation quality that can be found in a Studio Madhouse or A-1 Pictures work. While I know that's more of a factor of Super being a weekly show rather than a seasonal one, to me, that just means the weekly format needs to go die in a fire.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#57687: May 29th 2017 at 12:55:50 AM

That or give it a seasonal break. Do the right thing that after every major arc you take a couple month break to properly lay everything out such as the story & animation.

You'll prolly be able to put more heart into your work if your not as overworked really.

[up] You really think the animation could have been better though. The animation in the Battle of Gods movie fight is just fucking amazing compared to the show.

edited 29th May '17 12:56:44 AM by slimcoder

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#57688: May 29th 2017 at 12:59:14 AM

Yeah, seriously. Have, say, a 14 episode run in the Spring season and a 14 episode run in the Fall season. Have two main animation teams assigned to it- one for Spring and the other for Fall- so no one gets overworked and quality can be really high.

Of course, that'd be the sensible and human thing to do that'd likely result in a better product and happier employees. However, it'd almost certainly result in less money for Toei and we can't have that.

[up] The movie also likely had a dedicated animation team that was given a hell of a lot more time to work on it. Super episodes are churned out as quickly as possible so the animation team, even though they have talent, can only do so much.

edited 29th May '17 1:01:10 AM by Zelenal

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#57689: May 29th 2017 at 1:46:16 AM

And then there is the broadcasting practices where they need to animate an episode but cannot catch up to the source material and os they need filler.

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Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#57690: May 29th 2017 at 2:18:35 AM

"The battle with Beerus isn't as good as the movie version either. There are some good bits but also a lot of dumb ones and it drags on. I really do like the dub though. The voice acting is great and a lot of the lines are funnier."

Couldn't disagree more. Adore Super's version of the Beerus vs. Super Saiyan God Goku fight. It actually made Super Saiyan God look powerful instead of the wet fart it was in the movie. Goku also fought until he dropped instead of just surrendering. The only criticism is that the fight could have been two episodes shorter.

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#57691: May 29th 2017 at 2:21:41 AM

And then Super goes on to reveal that Super Saiyan God is waaaay weaker than he was in relation to Beerus in the movie.

Goku surrendering is good. He's not some infallible, never quitting superhero. He has his limits and it's nice to see that brought up and made clear.

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#57692: May 29th 2017 at 2:28:48 AM

I think Super's retelling of the movies aren't as good overall as the movies, but it is worth watching since the show changes some aspects of the stories in really good and interesting ways. Also, you absolutely have to watch the episodes immediately before Battle of Gods and the episodes in-between Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F', at the very least, because they are hilarious.

edited 29th May '17 2:29:59 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#57693: May 29th 2017 at 3:55:36 AM

I prefer the movies as they don't drag out the fights for too long and they are generally much better animation than the show.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#57694: May 29th 2017 at 4:07:58 AM

That's the benefit of actually being a movie...

Which isn't a strike towards the show...

But there is a lot of padding...

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#57695: May 29th 2017 at 4:14:50 AM

I know the animation could never be as good as the movie but can't it be better padding aside?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#57696: May 29th 2017 at 4:43:24 AM

Yes, it can be better.

Not consistently.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#57697: May 29th 2017 at 4:53:03 AM

Especially that one universe. Y'all know the one.

RIP Trio de Dangers.

Also, Caulifla seems cool, but I really wish that the U6 Saiyans had more muscle. They look like they haven't eaten in years. At least Kale is about to get /fit/.

edited 29th May '17 5:01:08 AM by Hobgoblin

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#57698: May 29th 2017 at 5:07:13 AM

@Known Unknown: Kale going crazy go nuts enough for all the other competitors to concentrate on her instead of U7 is exactly what I was thinking might happen.

Especially that one universe. Y'all know the one.

I think to further hammer home how out of whack U9 is, Sidra will Face Death with Dignity, stoically accepting oblivion, while Rou would be begging for his life the entire time.

[up]Here's hoping Goku convinces the Zen'O to at least spare them and the other fighters' home worlds.

edited 29th May '17 5:10:24 AM by UdtheImp

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57699: May 29th 2017 at 5:07:35 AM

If you really care about Super's first 2 arcs, just watch the films. None of things added to the anime versions are worthwhile in my view, which is why I never bothered.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#57700: May 29th 2017 at 7:29:20 AM

Who said I was talking about Universe 9?tongue

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