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UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#57526: May 23rd 2017 at 4:42:14 AM

I think both versions of Frost would hate Frieza for different reasons. Manga!Frost is obvious, but Anime!Frost would consider Frieza to be a violent, spoiled brat of a thug with only delusions of class and zero pragmatism, thus making Frieza the inferior tyrant.

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HITTING HELPY!!
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#57527: May 23rd 2017 at 7:21:33 AM

I wouldn't call Frost Freeza lite. I mean, ultimately Frost is a capitalist and Freeza is a sadist.

They're both bad guys, but different kinds of badguys.

09MurphyM Since: Jan, 2001
#57528: May 23rd 2017 at 7:27:31 AM

I wonder why the show even bothered to convince us that Buu would even be part of the tournament if he was simply going to be replaced anyway.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57529: May 23rd 2017 at 7:31:11 AM

Same reason Toriyama tried to convince us Monaka could fight at all.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#57530: May 23rd 2017 at 7:35:19 AM

[up]For the sake of a really dumb joke?

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09MurphyM Since: Jan, 2001
#57531: May 23rd 2017 at 7:39:05 AM

It just seems weird that they would build up the idea of Buu being a member of the universe 7 team only to suddenly decide to swap him for Freiza.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#57532: May 23rd 2017 at 7:45:58 AM

Especially when there really hasn't been any kind of joke anywhere.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57533: May 23rd 2017 at 7:49:05 AM

[up][up][up]No. Subversion of expectation.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#57534: May 23rd 2017 at 7:49:07 AM

Is this joke funny though honestly?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#57536: May 23rd 2017 at 7:51:53 AM

Well, like I said, this is the third time they've done this:

1) Resurrection F, where Buu fell asleep right before the fight with Frieza (so that he didn't just candy beam him right from the get go);

2) Universe 6 tourney, where he fell asleep during the tournement (which combined with the Monaka thing meant they were down two members, all for the sake of creating fake tension since Goku and Vegeta more or less beat everyone);

3) And now this, to bring back a guy who's utterly untrustworthy.

I'm sick of it. It was kinda ok the first time, but now it's just clear they want Buu out of the plot. Just goddamn use him already.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#57538: May 23rd 2017 at 8:36:44 AM

Surprised Heroes hasn't done that already.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#57539: May 23rd 2017 at 8:39:51 AM

Its missing a (scouter), but I'll take it.

edited 23rd May '17 8:40:00 AM by Zeromaeus

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#57540: May 23rd 2017 at 9:11:18 AM

[up][up]It has Majin Baby Janemba so close enough?

This song needs more love.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#57541: May 23rd 2017 at 9:17:11 AM

What amuses me is that they're clearly aware they're reusing the same plot device with Buu by having Beerus acknowledge it in universe.

Come to think of it, I notice the elements from the Buu saga are actively downplayed in Super: Trunks and Goten pretty much being background scenery, and Buu's general treatment and the apparent absence of fusion outside of special instances. And everyone calling out Gohan for being lame as the Great Saiyaman.

Meanwhile, more fandom popular elements are favored: Freeza, the Androids, the human characters being relevant. SSJBKK.

Was the Buu saga unpopular or something in Japan?

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#57542: May 23rd 2017 at 10:28:02 AM

[up]There's a Vocal Minority of American fans who hate the Buu saga, so maybe the same thing's true of Japanese fans. And this is just speculation, but it might be part of the reason why Dragon Ball Kai originally ended at the end of the Cell saga.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#57543: May 23rd 2017 at 11:14:06 AM

Heh, Toyotaro drew a doodle of a hypothetical "Time Breaker Majin Baby Janemba".

"...I don't even know who I AM anymore!"

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#57544: May 23rd 2017 at 11:54:11 AM

re: Buu swapped out for Frieza.

It definitely seems like a Rule of Three gag care of Toriyama.

That, and Buu's combo platter of powers seem to be something that the writers struggle with, as you'll eventually come to a situation where people where ask: "But what happens if he does THIS (insert Buu power here) during the tourney?"

Frieza, by comparison, just hits things, usually until the offending party dies. It's really simple to write.

edited 23rd May '17 11:55:17 AM by MyssaRei

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#57545: May 23rd 2017 at 11:55:14 AM

Again, Buu was kicked out of the last tournament because he failed a test, not because he fell asleep.

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ShadowAbyss Since: Dec, 2010
#57546: May 23rd 2017 at 12:00:35 PM

Didn't he fell asleep doing the test? I don't think it really matters how he fell asleep, but he did and that's it. Boo is completely useless in Super because of that joke and it's not even a funny one.

edited 23rd May '17 12:00:58 PM by ShadowAbyss

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#57547: May 23rd 2017 at 12:01:40 PM

He fell asleep during the test.

Damnit, [nja]!

edited 23rd May '17 12:02:45 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#57548: May 23rd 2017 at 12:02:33 PM

So it does it count then.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#57549: May 23rd 2017 at 12:04:03 PM

A teaser trailer for 4D Broly God movie:

edited 23rd May '17 12:04:53 PM by Rinsankajugin

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#57550: May 23rd 2017 at 12:04:10 PM

Pretty much. Falling asleep is the reason he failed.

I agree that they just seem to be coming up with excuses to write him out.

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