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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57451: May 21st 2017 at 10:44:11 PM

Chichi also means breast/milk in Japanese.

edited 21st May '17 10:46:52 PM by LSBK

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#57452: May 22nd 2017 at 12:17:53 AM

Vegeta would be so smug if Bulla became a Super Saiyan before Pan. waii

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#57453: May 22nd 2017 at 12:40:58 AM

[up][up] Huh, Dragon Ball is a kids manga right? Damn were the Japanese lax back then.

Do we know who become a Super Saiyan first between Goten & Trunks?

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#57454: May 22nd 2017 at 12:45:17 AM

Goten learned it through training with his mom and Vegeta didn't know about Trunks being able to transform at all, so I assume that Goten transformed first and he taught Trunks how to.

edited 22nd May '17 12:46:23 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#57455: May 22nd 2017 at 12:55:24 AM

Speaking of SSJ from Goten and Trunks, how did they acquire the form? Goku, Gohan, Trunks and Vegeta all got their forms from being pure of heart and rage but Goten and Not Future!Trunks seem to go Super Saiyan naturally.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#57456: May 22nd 2017 at 1:30:07 AM

Kids get angry easily...

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#57457: May 22nd 2017 at 1:36:44 AM

By that logic every Saiyan except Goku's mom would have become a Super Saiyan since childhood or even infancy.

edited 22nd May '17 1:38:16 AM by slimcoder

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#57458: May 22nd 2017 at 1:39:44 AM

We don't actually know if Goten learned it through training with Chichi, but the way he phrases it makes it sound like he learned it before the first time she say it. Which puts him in the same boat as Trunks.

Goten has been a Super Saiyan for so long he doesn't actually remember when it happened. So I really hope they don't go acting like Bra/Pan need some huge emotional trigger for it when Goten/Trunks didn't.

[up][up][up] Just like how Gohan had it much easier than Goku/Vegeta, Goten and Trunks had it easier again. Future Trunks was also shown as a Super Saiyan in the manga before Gohan's death. It's inherent to their generation.

edited 22nd May '17 1:40:50 AM by Saiga

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#57459: May 22nd 2017 at 2:22:15 AM

Hopefully they need to be at least toddlers before their turn.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#57460: May 22nd 2017 at 2:26:15 AM

So is Super Saiyan a dominant gene or....?

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#57461: May 22nd 2017 at 2:29:41 AM

Zenkai genes.

edited 22nd May '17 2:29:52 AM by alekos23

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#57462: May 22nd 2017 at 2:36:23 AM

People have believed that getting kicked (or punched) in the dick makes your sperm stronger meaning your future kids would be stronger.....

But that's in the abridged so I don't think that counts, heh. tongue

Though wow GT Pan is a fucking weakling for not going Super Saiyan then. What the hell happened, did Videl's DNA dilute the genepool & made her weak as shit or as weak as her granddad Hercule in Saiyan proportion?

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#57463: May 22nd 2017 at 2:57:44 AM

Or it could be that the writers didn't want her to go Super Saiyan? [nja]

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#57464: May 22nd 2017 at 3:01:29 AM

She was written to be bratty Tagalong Kid and well they don't actually get to do anything actually cool like a straight up fight to transform.

edited 22nd May '17 3:04:36 AM by Memers

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#57465: May 22nd 2017 at 3:02:27 AM

GT Pan wrecked Dr. Gero, so she wasn't weak. The gene dilution doesn't work as an excuse, either, since Goku Jr. and Vegeta Jr. were able to transform and their blood was FAR more diluted than Pan's.

The only reason GT didn't have Pan go Super Saiyan is because GT is garbage.

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#57466: May 22nd 2017 at 4:56:23 AM

I think there are two reasons for Goten and Trunks getting Super Saiyan so early. 1) Being half human somehow made them more powerful, allowing them to access SSJ quicker; and 2) they had their tails cut off right after birth, which may be some sort of species wide crutch or something.

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#57467: May 22nd 2017 at 5:03:30 AM

No, they didn't. The only source that says anything about their tales (guidebooks/interviews) says they were born without tails.

UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#57468: May 22nd 2017 at 5:58:19 AM

Still, I think the tails may have something to do with holding back the ability to go Super Saiyan.

edited 22nd May '17 5:58:45 AM by UdtheImp

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#57469: May 22nd 2017 at 6:14:12 AM

Yeah man.

That doesn't make sense.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#57470: May 22nd 2017 at 6:30:46 AM

[up][up] and you're basing this on?

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#57471: May 22nd 2017 at 6:49:49 AM

[up] I assume the fact that we've never seen a tailed saiyan go SSJ. (At least, I can't think of any off the top of my head)

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#57472: May 22nd 2017 at 8:06:28 AM

Well, not in canon.

Both Bardock and Broly had tails and went Super Saiyan.

As for Kid Trunks and Goten being able to go Super Saiyan so easily, I assume that, like many things Toriyama does, it's because he didn't want to bother with a whole scene of them doing it, so he just said now they are Super Saiyans!

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#57473: May 22nd 2017 at 8:10:28 AM

[up][up]On that note, some people (eg. me) are disappointed that the saiyans in Dragon Ball Heroes don't get red tails when they go God.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#57474: May 22nd 2017 at 11:52:22 AM

Their tails don't change color in any of the forms.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#57475: May 22nd 2017 at 11:55:09 AM

Does anybody actually like Pan in Super?

Yes. In fact, baby Pan seems to be more popular than GT Pan.

Regardless, i was talking about the older Pan getting a Super Saiyan transformation for heroes.

Hell, Heroes gave Raditz and Nappa Super Saiyan 3 transformations.


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