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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#57401: May 21st 2017 at 11:12:17 AM

I think no one explained the tournament format to Vegeta yet.

felipelight Teacher from Undisclosed Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Teacher
#57402: May 21st 2017 at 11:29:45 AM

Piccolo face turn is way more organic than the other 2. He is an absolutely different person than King Piccolo, and the only 'villanous' thing he did after that was fighting Goku in the Budokai. He was never all that villainous

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57404: May 21st 2017 at 11:38:44 AM

[up][up]He's not an entirely different person, he wasn't exactly the same, but the memories and emotions were still there. And he absolutely intended on ruling the world with an iron-fist. He just needed to get Goku out of the picture before he could do that.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57405: May 21st 2017 at 11:41:19 AM

I just think it's dumb to being Freeza in because apparently it's not that difficult to raise someone up Buu or Goku's level. Why not just use the HTC to train up someone else? Or even stick Buu in there for 2 hours?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57406: May 21st 2017 at 11:46:19 AM

How close are they to Frieza coming back? Maybe they'll (half-assedly) address those issues.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#57407: May 21st 2017 at 12:48:48 PM

[up][up]On that note why not use the Room so Goku can get Old Kai power up?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#57408: May 21st 2017 at 12:49:52 PM

There's only 4 hours left. I'm assuming there's simply not enough time. Freeza is still the strongest character so it's not too out there to recruit him.

I still maintain this is a Godzilla Threshold but Super loves flying right into the face of consistency, so Goku is just going to act like everything about Freeza is just water under the bridge.

edited 21st May '17 12:50:33 PM by BlackYakuzu94

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57409: May 21st 2017 at 12:49:58 PM

It's not like any of them forgot it existed either since Vegeta went right back into it this episode.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#57410: May 21st 2017 at 12:50:21 PM

Or the Super Saiyan God Ritual on Gohan?

Wait can it work on half-breeds?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#57411: May 21st 2017 at 12:51:26 PM

Gohan doesn't want Super Saiyan God. He wants to get stronger in a different path than Goku.

edited 21st May '17 12:52:01 PM by BlackYakuzu94

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57412: May 21st 2017 at 12:56:07 PM

Oh, really? That's actually interesting. A bit of a stupid time to do that considering the situation, but Saiyans have never been the type to be sensible when it comes to stuff like that.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#57413: May 21st 2017 at 12:58:10 PM

It's not smart, but it's admirable at least. Saiyans embody Honor Before Reason after all.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57414: May 21st 2017 at 12:58:24 PM

Gohan actually forced Goku to fight him with Blue Kaioken last episode. As it, he kept beating Goku's weaker forms until Goku had no choice but to.

edited 21st May '17 12:59:00 PM by VeryMelon

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#57416: May 21st 2017 at 1:02:31 PM

It was a pretty great moment all things considered.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#57417: May 21st 2017 at 1:03:22 PM

Piccolo face turn is way more organic than the other 2. He is an absolutely different person than King Piccolo, and the only 'villanous' thing he did after that was fighting Goku in the Budokai. He was never all that villainous

I'd actually argue that Vegeta's Face Turn was just as organic since it was a slowburn through the entirety of Z.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#57418: May 21st 2017 at 1:07:29 PM

Gohan turning down God powers would be admirable but when the prospect of oblivion is staring at you right in your face it is rather idiotic.

This is one of those situations where you take every advantage you get, fuck honor as survival & necessity takes precedent now.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#57419: May 21st 2017 at 1:10:32 PM

Vegeta and Piccolo's change are different. They didn't really have much of a choice and just kind succumbed to being good guys.

Freeza is such a petty character that he's too self absorbed to consider self preservation. Now maybe his second death made him think about things, but I doubt it.

[up] But that's not what this series is about. Usually bad decisions work out because it's simply that idealistic. A lot of decisions the cast make are bad end up being beneficial no matter how bad they are on paper cuz it's always been that way.

edited 21st May '17 1:13:19 PM by BlackYakuzu94

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#57420: May 21st 2017 at 1:26:50 PM

@Cortez: Really? I had not noticed.

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HITTING HELPY!!
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#57421: May 21st 2017 at 2:18:37 PM

Yeah, Vegeta turned down doing the God ritual because of MY PRIDE and ended up Whis training his way to Super Saiyan Blue anyway.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#57422: May 21st 2017 at 2:26:49 PM

Well, only in the anime; the movies basically imply that he did the ritual as well in order to gain Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, while the manga flat out confirms it with him having access to Super Saiyan God.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#57423: May 21st 2017 at 4:17:48 PM

Since it's been said that Gohan can get stronger despite having his potential unlocked TWICE already, y'all think it's possible Gohan will eventually get a new, non-SSJ transformation?

Like, Ultimate Gohan 2 or something like that?

edited 21st May '17 4:18:17 PM by Rinsankajugin

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#57424: May 21st 2017 at 4:25:24 PM

Ultimate Gohan God Ultimate Gohan.

Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#57425: May 21st 2017 at 4:27:20 PM

If he's ultimate, obviously, his next transformation will be Mega.

One Strip! One Strip!

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