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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#57376: May 21st 2017 at 3:40:09 AM

Well she definitely fired off a Pretty Cure style Finisher so she has power, however it might not work on those pure hearted or oblivious people aka Goku.

edited 21st May '17 3:40:33 AM by Memers

UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#57377: May 21st 2017 at 4:16:12 AM

[up]Which is probably why her rival seems to be Vegeta. [lol]

The Roshi scene here I found infinitely funnier than in the Tien recruitment episode. The probable reasons are 1) the victim here voluntarily taking one for the team; 2) said volunteer being a dude and Roshi KNOWS IT; and 3) Roshi's actually realizing his own character flaw and working to correct it. I mean, there IS the potential for some hot babes to be in the tournament, which is a given considering 80 fighters all coming at each other in a crowded space.

[up][up]Maybe the gender ratio could be rounded out by some magical boys.

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HITTING HELPY!!
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#57378: May 21st 2017 at 4:37:41 AM

Well the Magical Girl universe has the Sentai universe as their counterpart.

By rule they can only have 1 Token Female or Token Male, in the magical girl case it will be a super smooth Tuxedo Mask type character or a shota character like Erio.

edited 21st May '17 4:41:22 AM by Memers

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57379: May 21st 2017 at 4:58:02 AM

I think Team Four Stars's influence leaked into Toei.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#57380: May 21st 2017 at 5:15:09 AM

Has Popo ever had the super close-up in the anime proper before now? If not, I don't think it can be denied that Popo threatening to ban Vegeta from the ROSAT is a DBZA reference. It wouldn't be the first one, but it would be the most obvious one. In other news, Gowasu actually is a Godtuber, and this episode is 100% fanservice.

Just like I predicted, Brianne might be my favorite new character of this arc, and she might compete with Magetta for favorite new character of Super.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57381: May 21st 2017 at 6:12:06 AM

Nevermind. I fudged.

edited 21st May '17 7:39:48 AM by VeryMelon

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#57382: May 21st 2017 at 6:32:39 AM

Just like I predicted, Brianne might be my favorite new character of this arc, and she might compete with Magetta for favorite new character of Super.

I like Magetta too! I've always had a thing for the characters with odd designs and unique powers.

That, and I got super excited when I saw Brianne transform. I was like, "HOLY SHIT IT'S THE CLOWN GIRL FROM THE OPENING!"

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#57383: May 21st 2017 at 6:38:28 AM

Magetta's fight with Vegeta is my favorite fight in Super, and solidly in my Top 10 favorite fights in the whole franchise.

edited 21st May '17 6:41:20 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#57384: May 21st 2017 at 7:53:49 AM

"HOLY SHIT IT'S THE CLOWN GIRL FROM THE OPENING!"

-blink-

Huh.

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#57385: May 21st 2017 at 8:08:44 AM

[up] Brianne is briefly seen fighting Vegeta in the new opening credits. I was just excited that we finally found out who she was and where she was from.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#57386: May 21st 2017 at 8:16:18 AM

I think Team Four Stars's influence leaked into Toei.

This became apparent to me after the baseball episode.

When Memes are no longer dreams.

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UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#57387: May 21st 2017 at 8:25:33 AM

Unlike in Abridged, Canon!Popo fails at being threatening do to being left behind just like everybody else. Remember when he could run circles around Goku and humiliate him as a kid?

So Pink Lady's name is Brianne? Hm. Think the rest of U2 will have stereotypical American teen girl names as well to stand out?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#57388: May 21st 2017 at 8:29:09 AM

And has NO ONE commented on Mr. Popo? I was half expecting him to go DBZA on Vegeta for a moment.

Heh. I'm annoyed I only remembered to comment on that today. It seems I was a little too slow however.

What surprises me is that I thought Toei disliked DBZA considering stuff like the thing with the latter group's appearance during the Kai dub. I thought they had some issues with the DBZA crew, so it seems weird for them to make any nod to them.

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UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#57389: May 21st 2017 at 8:50:58 AM

Could be Toei subtly telling the TFS crew that their Vegeta is a pansy compared to Canon!Vegeta......

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57390: May 21st 2017 at 8:52:52 AM

That wouldn't make any sense.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#57391: May 21st 2017 at 9:28:20 AM

Remember, Toei has both lawyers and writters, and those may act independently.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#57392: May 21st 2017 at 9:47:00 AM
Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#57393: May 21st 2017 at 10:12:21 AM

This became apparent to me after the baseball episode. When Memes are no longer dreams.

To be honest, Yamcha has been a meme in Japan for quite a while, so I wouldn't necessarily credit TFS. Gintama has been making jokes about Yamcha for the longest time. tongue

edited 21st May '17 10:14:02 AM by Lionheart0

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57394: May 21st 2017 at 10:23:08 AM

I once read a forum post that broke down how Yamcha was treated by Toei before and after Team Four Star made Dragon Ball Z Abridged. It was surprisingly thorough.

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#57395: May 21st 2017 at 10:30:19 AM

Also, I know I'm kind of late to this discussion, but regarding @57359:

I actually hadn't thought of that, but yeah. I imagine Krillin's going to be very upset with Goku over his decision to recruit Frieza. I know I wouldn't feel safe sharing a team with someone who killed me in cold blood. Add in the fact that Frieza also killed Vegeta and Piccolo, and Goku's decision comes off as not just stupid, but horribly callous.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57396: May 21st 2017 at 10:31:49 AM

[up]With a group that already includes Vegeta, Piccolo, and would have included Buu, that's not really a compelling argument.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#57397: May 21st 2017 at 10:37:13 AM

[up]It is when Frieza has shown no remorse or desire to change, despite having like three opportunities to do so.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57398: May 21st 2017 at 10:39:59 AM

[up]Neither did Piccolo nor Vegeta, nor even Buu really. None of them showed any signs of wanting to change, it just happened after hanging around long enough and working together during mutual crises.

Which isn't to say it's going to happen here, but "bad guy works with the good guys, and only Goku's really okay with it" isn't new to Dragon Ball.

edited 21st May '17 10:40:46 AM by LSBK

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#57399: May 21st 2017 at 10:40:35 AM

Eh... I think they're more of a gray area.

Vegeta never actually killed anyone else on the team, unless you count the characters that Nappa killed under Vegeta's instruction.

Piccolo killed Goku, but I think you could argue that Goku was pulling a Heroic Sacrifice by holding Raditz in place. That, and Goku's the one doing the recruiting and he's the only one who died at Piccolo's hands, so it doesn't come off as callous, at least not to me.

Super Buu killed Krillin, 18 and Roshi, but you could argue that the Buu we know and love (Fat Buu, Mr. Buu, Good Buu or whatever you want to call him) wasn't in control at the time.

Neither did Piccolo nor Vegeta, or even Buu really. None of them showed any signs of wanting to change, it just happened after hanging around long enough and working together during mutual crises.

That's true of Piccolo and Vegeta, but how is it true of Buu? He literally pulled a Heel–Face Turn because Mr. Satan asked him nicely to stop killing people.

edited 21st May '17 10:43:20 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57400: May 21st 2017 at 10:42:58 AM

Vegeta never killed any of them personally, but he ordered Nappa to do so, would have done so if not beaten, and never expressed any remorse for it (or at least not to the people involved directly).

Piccolo was still very hellbent on taking over the world, or at least thought he was, until he found himself sacrificing himself for Gohan.

Mr. Buu, never killed any of our guys, but he still slaughtered city after city.

edited 21st May '17 10:43:54 AM by LSBK


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