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#57126: May 14th 2017 at 5:08:49 PM

@Pushover Media Critic Zamasu mentioned seeing many planets going into countless wars, and he was the North Kaio (At least according to the manga), so that's where most of my info comes from. Rumsshi being responsible, at least in part, to Zamasu low opinion on mortals and Gods is an Implied Trope.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#57127: May 14th 2017 at 5:18:57 PM

I agree with Nikkolas. The 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai is my favorite arc in the franchise, and Tenshinhan cements his credentials as an eternal badass really hard in it.

edited 14th May '17 5:19:37 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57128: May 14th 2017 at 5:24:30 PM

Guys, there's no internet wide Tien hate. I just find it funny how much the character got bullied over this last weekend.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#57130: May 14th 2017 at 5:30:29 PM

Its not like every character in this show doesn't get a good ribbing every once & a while.

Look at Vegeta, he's a pretty big butt monkey.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#57131: May 14th 2017 at 6:36:59 PM

Well, Tien can fuse with Yamcha, so we can have double the Yamcha in one person.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#57132: May 14th 2017 at 7:00:44 PM

Excuse you. How many interdimensional baseball games against a god of destruction has Tien won? That's right, none. Yamcha > Tien. wink

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#57133: May 14th 2017 at 7:09:23 PM

Yamcha is definitely made of adamantium for surviving two Gods duking it out.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#57134: May 14th 2017 at 7:14:05 PM

Fortunately for him, it was a joke.

A guy can survive anything if it's played for laughs.

One Strip! One Strip!
Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#57136: May 14th 2017 at 7:38:58 PM

Hercule is the champ. Goku and co. are just using smoke and mirrors. Don't be fooled, ya'll.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57137: May 14th 2017 at 8:40:13 PM

I remember re-watching the Cell Saga a short while ago. I was coming at it having seen the entire series, having seen Mr. Satan is actually a really cool and funny guy. Also first time I saw the Cell Games so many years ago, I had no knowledge at all of Dragon Ball.

Coming back to Hercule in the Cell Games with all that on my mind, I really hate the character at this point. He's a living mockery of these characters we love. He spits in the face of all the struggles they've endured. He represents the fact the world at large has no respect for real heroes.

I can't find him amusing or likable here.

edited 14th May '17 8:41:27 PM by Nikkolas

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#57138: May 14th 2017 at 8:42:38 PM

Seeing Tien get shat on this weekend was indeed funny.l

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#57139: May 14th 2017 at 8:47:14 PM

You know, guys, there is a reason I use Tenshinhan's original Japanese name over his English name of Tien Shinhan, and it's not because I think the Japanese version does everything better. I use Tenshinhan's original name because everyone referring to him as Tien completely removes the fact that, in the original, Ten is Chiaotzu's nickname for him. It's similar to how, in Japan, Bulma almost exclusively refers to Goku as Son. Toriyama seems to like the idea of a character's closest and oldest friend having a special nickname for them, and the absence of both of these in the dub has always bothered me a little.

edited 14th May '17 8:56:16 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#57140: May 14th 2017 at 8:50:36 PM

Son isn't a nickname, it's just Goku's surname. I actually found it weird that she refers to him by it considering how close they are.

I mean, maybe it means something different since most people don't have them in the Dragon World, but still. Like, Piccolo calls him Son too, are they especially close?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#57141: May 14th 2017 at 8:54:14 PM

Iunno. Like you said, not many people have last names in Dragon Ball, so it's a bit muddy how we're supposed to take it. Personally, I think with Bulma it's a term of endearment, since she's known him since she was 1.5 times his age, and with Piccolo it's supposed to be a sign of respect and professionalism.

edited 14th May '17 8:59:32 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#57142: May 14th 2017 at 9:13:26 PM

Mr. Satan is an unlikable jerk until he meets Buu, which did wonders for making him a significantly better character.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#57143: May 14th 2017 at 10:57:56 PM

He's just a jerk.

Who cares if he represents the whole world's ignorance of the Z-fighters...

They don't want the credit or deserve it really. Not off Namek.

edited 14th May '17 11:03:28 PM by randomness4

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57144: May 14th 2017 at 11:07:57 PM

Uh, what? How many times did Goku save the world in DB? 4 times that cometo mind. Okay, Oolong can maybe take the credit for Pilaf but Goku is responsible for stopping Red Ribbon, Piccolo and Piccolo.

And then there's Z where they again stop genocidal maniacs in the form of Raditz and Vegeta.

Also I just realized two of the previous threats our heroes stopped are actually at the Cell Games, as heroes. Hm. Oh well.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#57145: May 15th 2017 at 8:17:05 AM

So, after an hour of MS Paint, we can see how Cell without the goddamned spots that make him a pain to animate would look like... Guess he still looks good enough, so I don't know what the hell was Toriyama thinking when he added the spots.

(Check out the original artist, the one in the watermarks; I'm not taking any credit or whatever)

Also, looks like Toriyama is a fan of Alien; between Piccolo, Freeza and Cell, you can find most of the signature body elements.

edited 15th May '17 8:18:52 AM by Eriorguez

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#57146: May 15th 2017 at 8:34:14 AM

You know, you never really think about just how much smaller Perfect Cell is compared to Im and Semi until you actually see the comparison.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#57147: May 15th 2017 at 8:37:56 AM

Which is funny, since he's still much bigger than Goku.

One Strip! One Strip!
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#57148: May 15th 2017 at 10:13:56 AM

And that's why Vegeta versus second form Cell is hilarious.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#57149: May 15th 2017 at 10:38:07 AM

I assume the spots were to make him more detailed, complex & to fill in space.

I admit he looks a little weird with all that full green on his shell. The spots were drawn to add balance.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#57150: May 15th 2017 at 11:15:47 AM

[up]I agree, the spots actually add in a special something to the design I can't describe in words, but without he's kinda......wrong.

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HITTING HELPY!!

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