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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#57052: May 13th 2017 at 10:36:06 PM

I feel so sorry for Gowasu.

This fucking elephant is going to get him killed.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#57053: May 13th 2017 at 10:47:55 PM

[up][up][up]Roshi isn't the weakest member of the team. That would be Tenshinhan.

edited 13th May '17 10:48:14 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#57054: May 13th 2017 at 10:51:13 PM

Man Gohan has really stepped up.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#57055: May 13th 2017 at 10:56:18 PM

I guess Zamasu really was the strongest non-destruction god or angel in Universe 10 and there's no way that Gowasu would be dumb enough to try and bring him back.

...Right?

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Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#57056: May 13th 2017 at 10:59:08 PM

Don't know why he would. One assumes Kais are restricted from the tournament.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#57057: May 13th 2017 at 11:10:30 PM

Besides, that would be impossible without more timeline hopping. One got Hakai'd and the other two got Zenou'd.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#57058: May 13th 2017 at 11:17:24 PM

There's still one stuck in a sword somewhere.

Anyway poor Tien. Keeps getting punked when this is when he should be hyping himself up.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#57060: May 13th 2017 at 11:33:54 PM

That was a good fight though. I think the show has gotten much better about making battles feel like they have impact.

edited 13th May '17 11:34:02 PM by Moth13

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#57061: May 14th 2017 at 12:24:22 AM

Zamasu has been erased. There's no way he's coming back, unless his Giygas form somehow latched onto Future Zen'o. Well, I suppose Zamasu still exists in Cell and the Unseen Timeline. Hmm..I wonder what will happen to those two versions?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#57062: May 14th 2017 at 12:27:58 AM

So, who's stronger: current Gohan or Super Saiyan Rage Trunks?

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#57064: May 14th 2017 at 12:46:44 AM

Whoever the writer chooses to win that day.

Fuck, maybe Krillin could beat both of them.

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#57065: May 14th 2017 at 1:51:37 AM

I would be more impressed with Gohan being able to fight Goku if everyone and their mother couldn't do the same.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#57066: May 14th 2017 at 2:43:41 AM

I feel like there used to be a guy at Toei who tried to make sure there was some semblance of power scaling. People may pull powerups and transformations out of their ass like never before but it at least felt somewhat consistent.

Now, however, that poor guy has been bound and gagged to a chair somewhere and serves as an example of what happens to those who mention the words "consistency" or "continuity."

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#57067: May 14th 2017 at 2:45:46 AM

So far, the only people aside from Gohan to push Goku to Blue in this arc have been 17, Toppo, and Bergamo. 17 is explicitly a wildcard in this tournament, and Bergamo and Toppo are on other teams. Seriously, why do you guys choose to ignore that the context of him going Blue against Krillin is that he's testing Krillin's resolve when fighting someone at that level, not that he actually needed it to beat him?

edited 14th May '17 2:57:28 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#57068: May 14th 2017 at 2:49:51 AM

[up][up] What? It never felt somewhat consistent. Go watch the anime Boo arc. Goku's simultaneously stronger and weaker than every other cast member.

It's just more consistent than this bullshit.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#57069: May 14th 2017 at 3:10:48 AM

[up] Exactly my point. Although I was referring more to early arcs of Super than previous stuff.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#57070: May 14th 2017 at 3:13:07 AM

Meh, I'll go by the manga scale: Only Golden Freeza (implied) and SSR Goku Black were on the ballpark of divine Ki Saiyans, with Hit being able to easily defeat SSB Vegeta due to the latter not working in the form's weaknesses and him being very skilled with his very powerful ability. They also seem to be keeping the power of their non-God forms at roughly their old limits.

Because Toyotaro seems to be turning into DB Saint Paul, I'll take it.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57071: May 14th 2017 at 3:15:21 AM

[up][up][up] How do you figure? Just curious because the only thing that, I think, the anime added was him briefly tangling with Buutenks. Otherwise, SSJ 3 Goku has a lot of hype but very little shown one way or another. He wasn't at full power with Kid Buu, he never actually fought Fat Buu and...that was it, I think.

Just wondering how this is a filler problem.

edited 14th May '17 3:16:57 AM by Nikkolas

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#57072: May 14th 2017 at 3:30:05 AM

Filler had him tangle with Gotenks-Boo as a Super Saiyan 3, one shot Ultimate Gohan (who was said to be as strong as the original) as a Super Saiyan, be outclassed by Evil Boo as a Super Saiyan 2 (while claiming not to have any more power to put out), claim Kid Boo was stronger than Evil Boo, then claim Kid Boo was stronger than all Boos, fight evenly with Kid Boo as a Super Saiyan 2, then claim to be more powerful as a Super Saiyan 3.

Tier list:

Super Saiyan 3 Goku
Kid Boo >= Super Saiyan 2 Goku
Gohan-Boo
Gotenks-Boo
Super Saiyan 3 Goku
Kid Boo >= Super Saiyan 2 Goku
Super Saiyan Goku
Ultimate Gohan
Evil Boo
Super Saiyan 2 Goku = Super Saiyan 3 Goku
Super Saiyan 3 Goku (manga)
Kid Boo (manga)

[up][up] The manga has had an odd powerscale in this arc, though. SS2 Trunks is able to fight with SS3 Goku, but unable to push Goku Black to Super Saiyan any more. Super Saiyan 1 or 2 Vegeta pushes Black to Super Saiyan and still has the upper hand until Black gets a zenkai. The only theory I've seen to cover this is that Vegeta's rage boost was permanent (as the same thing Trunks does), and so his Super Saiyan 2 is now stronger than Goku's Super Saiyan 3 and Trunks' Super Saiyan 2. Which I guess is workable, but the idea is silly in the first place.

edited 14th May '17 3:36:55 AM by Saiga

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57073: May 14th 2017 at 3:32:19 AM

He oneshotted Ultimate Gohan? I don't remember that part at all.

That's some bullshit, definitely. Thanks for the refresher.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#57074: May 14th 2017 at 3:34:21 AM

It was when Goku and Vegeta fought clones of Gohan, Piccolo, and Gotenks in Super Buu's body.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#57075: May 14th 2017 at 3:59:26 AM

You know, I can't help but wonder how everything would have gone down if Toriyama had handled everything and not just the outline.

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