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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#56926: May 9th 2017 at 11:26:47 PM

Goku -> Bloodthirsty warrior

Vegeta -> Genocidal pirate

Piccolo -> The devil

Android 17 -> Terminator

Android 18 -> T2: Judgement Day

Buu -> Cthulhu mythos

Tenshinhan -> Assassin in training

Roshi -> Molester

Krillin -> Cheats at stuff

Gohan is the Token Good Guy.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#56927: May 10th 2017 at 7:29:56 AM

Have any of y'all read the new chapter of the Yamcha manga? It's getting pretty crazy...

Apparently one of the other Z-Fighters is also an reincarnation like Yamcha, who's possibly gone through multiple life-loops, and is wondering how Yamcha got so powerful.

Doesn't say who it is though, but I bet it's Tien, mostly because of the Cell Saga incident and recent episodes.

edited 10th May '17 7:31:35 AM by Rinsankajugin

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#56928: May 10th 2017 at 8:59:56 AM

Is it translated yet? All I'm finding are raws.

Seems not. This chapter definitely.. picked up the pace is a nice way of putting it.

edited 10th May '17 1:44:59 PM by Soble

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#56929: May 10th 2017 at 11:05:24 AM

[up][up][up]I have to ruin the joke. Goku's not bloodthirsty, he only cares about the fighting itself and not hurting people or any malicious designs. And even then, that's only with people who want to fight.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#56930: May 12th 2017 at 2:01:59 AM

So, question; based on the power scaling of GT, was Goku supposed to be equal to his SS3 Buu Saga state in his base form, or was he supposed to be stronger than it?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#56931: May 12th 2017 at 8:30:17 AM

you really think GT knew the answer to that

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#56932: May 12th 2017 at 9:26:13 AM

Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta couldn't scratch Super 17. Super Saiyan 1 Kid Goku bodied him.

It's best not to think about GT power levels.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#56933: May 12th 2017 at 10:07:14 AM

I more meant if we just used the power scaling of the Black Star Dragon Balls and Bebi Sagas.

Actually, can anyone find the post that one person made involving making a God Scale with the Battle of Gods and GT characters; I want to remember the discussion that came up after that post.

edited 12th May '17 1:20:46 PM by Ssj3Gojira

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#56934: May 12th 2017 at 3:50:58 PM

[up][up] To be fair, Goku was basically above everyone in GT.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#56935: May 12th 2017 at 3:54:14 PM

Yeah people complain about Super being "The Goku and Vegeta show", but it's still better than GT's "The Goku Show".

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#56936: May 12th 2017 at 4:11:03 PM

What do you think GT stood for?

"Stop, Goku Time."

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#56937: May 12th 2017 at 4:17:10 PM

I wouldn't necessarily say Super is better than GT at this point. The Goku Time accusation is true, but they did still try to use their cast even if they were never prepared to tone down Goku's overexposure.

Even though Goku's performance against Super 17 reflects badly on Vegeta, they were definitely trying to give Vegeta his moment before that. They did his characterization well and showed how much he now cares for the Earth.

They also did stuff like give Goten his own fight and fleshed out his personality (even though they also left him out of the space team because he doesn't have Trunks' popularity).

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#56938: May 12th 2017 at 4:44:58 PM

I actually liked Pan and Giru in GT. Definitely my favorite characters of it all.

But the actual storyline? Meh. And I am not a fan of Super Saiyan 4.

Demetrios Making darkness adorable since 1999 from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
ShadowAbyss Since: Dec, 2010
#56940: May 12th 2017 at 5:42:35 PM

I actually started rewatching GT after I've got disappointed with the ending of the Future Trunks arc. I had a better time rewatching that old show Toriyama didn't make than the one he is actually writing.

It is flawed, I give you that. But they actually tried to be their own thing and I appreciate that, I think it is much better than just throwing nostalgic elements and references in the plot to pander to the older fans.

Also, I feel like it did a better job expanding their sole universe by making the characters actually explore it than Super is doing with all of its set of 12 different worlds. So far, it's mostly used just to make an interesting cast for tournaments and that's it. We're learning a lot of things about these other universes, but the main cast never actually go there to have some kind of arc. The most they've done so far was in the Future Trunks arc with the 10th universe, but even then, we barely know anything about that place other than Gowasu's little planet because it was more of a time travel story than anything else. And he was so boring with that tea thing again and again that I couldn't enjoy it, the pacing was terrible.

edited 12th May '17 5:43:29 PM by ShadowAbyss

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#56941: May 12th 2017 at 8:48:21 PM

People complain that Uub in GT barely did anything when he was supposed to be Goku's successor. But really, compared to most of the other characters, he accomplished a huge amount of stuff, even if it was nowhere near what Goku or Vegeta did.

Besides the Goku+Vegeta overexposure, my biggest complaints are:

1. Baby is my overall favorite villain from GT, but his origin (regarding Dr. Myuu) makes no sense and he never uses his possession power against Goku when he has the chance.

2. Android 17 (the original) gets killed off, even though he manages to shake off some of the brainwashing. In fact, we barely see him with his real personality. Also, I don't really dig Super 17's black-haired-SSJ 3 look.

3. The show creates seven different dragon villains, but Nuova and Syn (maaaaaybe Oceanus) were the only vaguely interesting ones. And because I'm shallow, I hated when it turned out that Oceanus was secretly male.

In other words, the show's villains really needed some work.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#56942: May 12th 2017 at 9:01:26 PM

I...think Oceanus was still supposed to be female.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#56943: May 12th 2017 at 9:04:15 PM

I admit, I haven't actually watched GT since the Funimation dub first aired.

De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#56944: May 12th 2017 at 9:08:56 PM

Oceanus was female, it's just her true form's voice was monstrous and vaguely masculine.

She's like a female Zarbon, except she doesn't seem to lose any power putting up a glamour like he does.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#56945: May 12th 2017 at 9:36:30 PM

I've mentioned this before but I would really like if they redid the GT arcs.

Take the best elements such as the antagonists & improve upon them. Such as in the Baby sage, have Goku taken over by Baby & Vegeta becomes the main protagonist with fighting against an entire planet & his family with few allies. It could even be pretty heart-wrenching since Vegeta is the type to break down more easily & it be very tragic to see him in despair that his entire family & rival have turned against him.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#56946: May 12th 2017 at 9:47:49 PM

3. The show creates seven different dragon villains, but Nuova and Syn (maaaaaybe Oceanus) were the only vaguely interesting ones. And because I'm shallow, I hated when it turned out that Oceanus was secretly male.

I kinda liked Eis Shenron. Mostly because the "honorable villain" cliche that Nuova embodies had been done to death and Eis actually managed to inflict some semi-permanent damage on Goku.

Also he had a badass voice effect (dub). I don't know what filter they used, but damn it sounds cool (pun not intended).

edited 12th May '17 9:47:58 PM by DarkHunter

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#56947: May 12th 2017 at 9:56:37 PM

I like Naturon.

Simply for how he's all "Oooh, look at me, I'm yet another goofy ineffectual miniboss like the last three, oops, you've beaten me- PSYCHE! Now I've got your granddaughter, and it's time to start beating you down both physically and emotionally."

Plus, even if the hubris of the act winds up being his undoing, he made the line "Your wish has been granted" sound chilling.

edited 12th May '17 9:57:14 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#56948: May 12th 2017 at 11:49:29 PM

@Dark Hunter

A fellow Pan fan. Pleased to meet you. Pan was easily my favorite character in GT.

I wish she did more but, well, that's what you say about everyone in GT except Goku. I still like looking at her Power Level in fan charts. Better be in the hundreds of millions, though!

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#56949: May 13th 2017 at 1:19:36 AM

I really hate the Goku shilling in GT but Goku is maun character of Dragon Ball so he has to be hyped up.

"Mai waifu."
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#56950: May 13th 2017 at 6:37:04 AM

Well, seeing most of the time in Z, Goku was away or unable to fight, and most of the tension came from that.

Also, HUGE SPOILERS FOR THE UPCOMING SUPER ARC: Check the URL, it is official.


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