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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#56676: May 6th 2017 at 8:46:25 PM

It has really delayed profit though, so it's not that good.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#56677: May 6th 2017 at 8:55:23 PM

Slice of Life Dragon Ball continues to be the best Dragon Ball.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#56678: May 6th 2017 at 9:00:47 PM

Super still reminds why Chi-Chi is my least favorite character.

Goku is a saint for putting up with her.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#56679: May 6th 2017 at 9:03:22 PM

Also, regarding the episode: I choose to believe that Roshi actually did sense her wickedness and he was going to do something to purify the dark magic from her body, it's just that it came off as very rapey because Roshi is incapable of approaching an attractive woman any other way, and he was just getting very excited at the prospect of physical contact with a woman in any way.

edited 6th May '17 10:59:24 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#56680: May 6th 2017 at 9:03:42 PM

So apparently the lesson here was that Roshi has the best weed. He bodied Tien.

edited 6th May '17 9:03:55 PM by Jedi1113

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#56681: May 6th 2017 at 9:34:07 PM

Tien exists to lose to people to show off how strong they are. That's his thing.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#56682: May 6th 2017 at 9:46:16 PM

That would be Veggie's thing...

Ten's thing is to try to stay relevant...

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#56683: May 7th 2017 at 12:33:42 AM

I guess today's episode kinda confirmed that one interview a few years back where Toriyama talked about Roshi's power-level.

Which means that Tien is the weakest link of Team Universe 7. What a surprising outcome, but at least we got to see the Four Witches after so many years! Also, I wonder what Kale's dynamic is in Cauli's gang.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#56684: May 7th 2017 at 12:48:27 AM

What's interesting is that that the mild spoilers of next week's episode say that at least the first half of the episode will be dedicated to a Gohan and Piccolo vs Goku and Tenshinhan double battle, and there was emphasis placed that Tenshinhan shouldn't be written off because he's got a bunch of tricky techniques that could turn the tide of battle.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#56685: May 7th 2017 at 12:51:23 AM

...i was gonna comment about how stupid that is

But fuck it

Super is Stupid.

It's so goddamn stupid.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#56686: May 7th 2017 at 12:56:57 AM

You mean amazing; I'm basically fueling myself on all the hate this thread keeps putting out. evil grin

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#56687: May 7th 2017 at 12:59:05 AM

I mean, it is a team battle, so Tenshinhan isn't necessarily going to be fighting Piccolo or Gohan alone. And the fact that they felt the need to clarify that shows that they're aware that Tenshinhan is going to be the weakest fighter there, so at least that in and of itself hasn't changed.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#56688: May 7th 2017 at 1:05:48 AM

But comparing Tenshinhan to any of those three should be like comparing a candle to the fucking Sun.

Of course, that's only if Super was following any sort of consistency or logic or had any fucks to give. It clearly does not.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#56689: May 7th 2017 at 1:14:03 AM

Tenshinhan has always been the most creative and crazy of the bunch, something that is needed for the team.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#56690: May 7th 2017 at 1:17:04 AM

I'm sorry, he's not the one burping out ghosts.

Fuck all of this, why isn't Gotenks in the To P?

WHY DOESN'T GOTEN EXIST?!

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#56691: May 7th 2017 at 1:18:47 AM

E Dit: double post

edited 7th May '17 1:19:02 AM by SonOfSharknado

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#56692: May 7th 2017 at 1:19:15 AM

Is Tien really the weakest on the team?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#56693: May 7th 2017 at 1:19:35 AM

[up][up][up][up]His stuff is pretty mundane compared to Gotenks.

And it never really escalated after the Tri-beam.

edited 7th May '17 1:19:58 AM by randomness4

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#56694: May 7th 2017 at 1:20:22 AM

I just want to see Tien do his Volleyball Fist again.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#56695: May 7th 2017 at 1:31:05 AM

Buff Roshi was doing better against base Goku than Krillin did, and buff Roshi took out Tenshinhan with his electric attack (I'm not saying any of the English names, since they're all dumb, and the Japanese name is impossible to remember). It seems that the strength of the three Human fighters goes like this:

Roshi < Tenshinhan < Krillin < buff Roshi < base Goku/Vegeta/Gohan.

Keep in mind that those 'greater than' symbols are indicative of a very small difference in power level.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#56696: May 7th 2017 at 1:31:25 AM

[up]x5 They will be protecting that island while 17 is fighting in the tournament.

Lame excuse for writing them out, yes it sucks.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#56697: May 7th 2017 at 1:38:14 AM

[up][up] The Thunder Shock Surprise/Turtle Style Last Resort/Bankoku Bikkuri Sho.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#56698: May 7th 2017 at 2:04:01 AM

Lightning Surprise Attack...

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#56699: May 7th 2017 at 2:09:49 AM

The only reason it was a 'surprise' is that he hardly ever uses it. I wish it had a cooler name, it's my favorite attack in the franchise.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#56700: May 7th 2017 at 3:53:11 AM

I suppose it's a good thing I wasn't referring to you or the people who didn't give a shit about the humans

Well you were referring to the people who were complaining about how strong the humans are. Which is more likely to be the people who didn't care, or didn't like them, rather than those who did care.

There's nothing wrong with being annoyed at the insane power scaling going on currently but I'm curious how those who did want relevant humans would have done it.

While I'm not one of the people asking, I have thought about this before because of how often it comes up. I don't think you need to make them stronger. I think even if you were going to make them relevant, it wouldn't be in every arc, especially when Super has so much slice-of-life. Really, the slice-of-life makes it piss easy to write stories that could focus entirely on them without requiring any sort of power scaling.

In actual arcs where they are being relevant, stuff like having too much going on for the main heroes to deal with everything at once would be enough. You've got a whole planet to work with, sometimes multiple, spread out the objectives for something and split people up to deal with appropriate challenges. Or have them provide something else than raw combat abilities, like Bulma. It is harder to do with most of the human fighters because they're so focused on fighting, but the slice of life episodes give plenty of time to set up some other role for them.

My idea for the current arc's tournament to use everyone in a meaningful way was to make team-based elimination matches, with the caveat that an individual fighter can only fight in one match. So it's not Goku/Vegeta handling every fight, they only get one fight each and they need as many capable fighters as they can get to add to their chances in the other battles. But the humans all in a team together, and they need to win (or, instead of straight elimination, it's a series of team battles and you need more wins than losses to advance).


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