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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#56651: May 6th 2017 at 4:11:26 PM

I kinda wished they weren't pushed out.

Or at the least, if he was just gonna forget them in terms of combat, then stop sending some of them out into the battlefield where they were just gonna be beaten to show how powerful the new guy is.

Though I suppose it was the movies that gave that impression that their purpose was to be utterly crushed by the new random villain appearing out of nowhere.

Then again, we can blame Frieza for making a large number of techniques and characters utterly obsolete. We've brought it up before, but he raised the bar to a level that was near impossible to match...then did it again after multiple people (including one of the dudes he'd easily crushed before) had long since surpassed him.

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#56652: May 6th 2017 at 4:31:12 PM

The Frieza saga did put the series in a direction where some of the earlier techniques were just plain useless due to power level nonsense. Goku was given SSJ just to match up to Frieza.

"Mai waifu."
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#56653: May 6th 2017 at 5:35:53 PM

But I thought people wanted the humans to be useful again. You got your wish (snicker)

Some people don't care whatever things make sense as long as they are pandered to.

Those people are the reason we can't have nice things.

edited 6th May '17 5:53:39 PM by Shlugo_the_great

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#56654: May 6th 2017 at 5:45:21 PM

That sounds judgmental.

Anyway, Kale is a member of Caulifla's crew.

@Lord Vatek: Except it is, because powerlevels are bull.

edited 6th May '17 5:47:08 PM by Cortez

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#56655: May 6th 2017 at 5:50:25 PM

You can bet your ass I'm totally judging them.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#56656: May 6th 2017 at 6:03:29 PM

I really like steak

I wouldn't want a steak served to me with a heaping pile of shit on top

edit: and that's ignoring the obvious - a fandom this size has many different people with different wants. I never wanted the humans to become this powerful, and I didn't care if they were relevant. People always act like it's the exact same fans every time there is a conflicting response to things.

I suppose it's a good thing I wasn't referring to you or the people who didn't give a shit about the humans. Because your opinions don't matter :V

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#56657: May 6th 2017 at 6:33:03 PM

Reminder that this is Toei's standard procedure; Yamcha being on par with Perfect Cell-tier opponents and the like.

Toriyama doesn't really care about power levels, and Toyotaro so far has God-level Saiyans unmatched by anything but Beerus, Freeza (who is a damn anomaly) and Goku Black (who IS a God-level Saiyan).

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#56658: May 6th 2017 at 6:38:35 PM

Not too sure about Manga Black; he's wholly inferior to Vegeta after he figured him out. Both times.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#56659: May 6th 2017 at 6:46:11 PM

Yeah Manga-Black's a pussy & a whiney little bitch when he gets his ass beat.

Not really an all-menacing opponent.

edited 6th May '17 6:49:10 PM by slimcoder

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#56660: May 6th 2017 at 6:48:55 PM

Anime Black was smug, and that's good.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#56661: May 6th 2017 at 7:06:06 PM

So Yurin is totally just Syndrome.

This song needs more love.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#56662: May 6th 2017 at 7:07:27 PM

Yurin's the villain? Called it!

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#56663: May 6th 2017 at 7:29:17 PM

Fortunately, I'm a guy who wanted the non-saiyans to be powerful and who sees no problem with them equalling SSG Goku with no explanation besides "I trained when you weren't looking". Partly because the pre-tournament part of this Arc is dragging along as it is.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#56664: May 6th 2017 at 7:34:21 PM

then you're apart of the problem and need to be cleansed.

Speaking of Black; why is his Manga incarnation unpopular? It's mainly on 4chan, but I take their words with a grain of salt a lot of the time...cuz it's 4chan. But is that opinion held anywhere else?

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#56665: May 6th 2017 at 7:37:54 PM

[up]It's all over DBS's YMMV page. People see Manga!Black as a bad Xicor (from Toyota's DBAF) clone who's a lot less cool than his anime version. They always bring up how badly he loses to Vegeta or how he decides to steal Goku's body just because he watched him once on GodTube.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#56666: May 6th 2017 at 7:43:28 PM

As someone who was never a huge Goku Black fan, I really couldn't care less if his Manga self is somehow "worse".

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#56667: May 6th 2017 at 7:45:13 PM

I do have an issue with him copying stuff from his own doujin.

Is that allowed?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#56668: May 6th 2017 at 7:51:56 PM

Well, this was just GOD DAMMIT ROSHI! the episode wasn't it?

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#56669: May 6th 2017 at 7:54:04 PM

Seriously, how are people getting that Krillin is supposed to be anywhere near Super Saiyan Blue? Literally the entire episode was establishing that he's slightly weaker than base Goku and Gohan, but not so much that he can't keep up with crafty techniques. The Blue scene was only to show that Krillin would stand and fight if confronted with an opponent at that level, instead of running away.

UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#56670: May 6th 2017 at 7:57:15 PM

They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character is in full force here, particularly Yurin. Hopefully future episodes flesh her out, but really I'm really disappointed.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#56671: May 6th 2017 at 8:03:18 PM

Tien getting bodied by Master Roshi makes me happy.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#56672: May 6th 2017 at 8:23:09 PM

That seems accurate...

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#56673: May 6th 2017 at 8:25:43 PM

Looks like I was right that Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Roshi are going to be all around the same tier of power in the tournament: slightly weaker than the base Saiyans, but making up for it with weird and wacky techniques. I did like that they brought back the Fist of the Four Arms and Roshi's lightning move, if only for a few seconds. Also, I loved that they revealed that Caulifla and Kale are different people in the most casual and off-handed way possible.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#56674: May 6th 2017 at 8:31:12 PM

So their Battle Powers went from ~75,000 and less to probably in the hundreds of millions just because.

Good to know.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#56675: May 6th 2017 at 8:45:15 PM

Turns out mountain training is better than people gave it credit for.


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