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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#56526: May 3rd 2017 at 4:42:12 PM

Is that how the show's treating it?

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#56527: May 3rd 2017 at 7:57:35 PM

You know, considering how much of a car and moterbike fanboy Toriyama is, and how much the man loves his wordplay puns, I'm surprised he never drew Yamcha riding a Yamaha.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#56528: May 3rd 2017 at 10:34:04 PM

[up] Heh Heh Yamaha. tongue

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#56529: May 3rd 2017 at 10:37:04 PM

Has he ever drawn a Transformer?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#56530: May 4th 2017 at 3:11:51 AM

Huh then there is no example of Gohan fighting for fun.

There's the Great Saiyaman. I mean, he's so much stronger than the criminals that I guess he can't call it "fighting" but. He likes it.

I think Gohan likes saving people and helping more than he likes fighting for its own sake.

Fighting is just a means to an end for him, which is very contrary to the approach of Goku and Vegeta.

edited 4th May '17 3:25:38 AM by unnoun

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#56531: May 4th 2017 at 3:19:14 AM

With that it's more he likes playing the superhero than actually liking to fight.

He does start to get into it during the Buu fight itself, to the point he got cocky. He does the same vs Cell too now that I think on it.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#56532: May 4th 2017 at 3:35:53 AM

I mean, because he got cocky with Cell his dad ended up blowing up and because he got cocky with Buu he ended up getting eaten. And then blown up.

And. Frankly Gohan was a lot stronger than both Cell and Buu in those fights. The same way that human criminals are significantly weaker than him when he's Saiyamaning.

Yes Saiyaman is a verb.

A less charitable view might say that what Gohan likes is being a bully. If I wanted to psychoanalyze I could probably blame Raditz, Nappa and Frieza.

But what I think is going on is that what Gohan likes is saving the day.

With that it's more he likes playing the superhero than actually liking to fight.

I mean, he started superheroing before he got the costume and started doing the poses. A robbery was happening and he saw it, and he couldn't find it in himself to ignore it. So he went super-saiyan.

The Great Saiyaman is ultimately born from Gohan's drive and urge to protect and to save.

Which frankly makes the fact that he decides to want to be cool while doing it, and thinks that everything he does as the Great Saiyaman is actually cool even more dorky.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#56533: May 4th 2017 at 3:45:46 AM

Even before as a Super Sayian he was playing the hero and that was it. Not cause he likes to fight.

He enjoyed it when he was younger though and it still shines through at times.

edited 4th May '17 3:50:36 AM by Memers

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#56534: May 4th 2017 at 4:00:55 AM

The blackmail was just an excuse, he was still excited. His only reservations were when Vegeta was mentioning he was thinking about entering, once Goku joined in he was excited again. The big problem I have is they are treating it as you can't be smart and fight, like a Genius Bruiser like Negi Springfield can't exist and do well. This episode actively made fun of it.

Considering what happened in Negima near the end, I see where you are coming from. Dragon Ball unfortunately is not a series where you can be a smart, scholarly person who uses his brain rather than brawn to fight.

"Mai waifu."
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#56535: May 4th 2017 at 7:09:52 AM

[up]Either you use pure brawn, or your brain is used entirely to compliment the brawn. Outsmarting the enemy doesn't work unless they are really THAT stupid, because otherwise they would just kill you in an instant for being a smartass.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#56536: May 4th 2017 at 9:02:28 AM

Pretty much.

Look at Murasaki's attempts to outsmart Goku. The latter either foiled them easily (because Murasaki himself is an idiot) or was outsmarted by Goku being too dumb to do what the former wanted him too.

This was a guy who, in lieu of not knowing how to reach the next floor of a building (and not knowing what an elevator was) opted to just bust through the ceiling instead.

He's got an uncanny knack of often being too strong to stop with brute force, and no selling techniques that work around brute force, or quickly finding his own work around.

Poor Spike the Devil man. He got screwed by Pure heart bullshit.

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BigBlackBangBro Time Stranger Since: Sep, 2016
Time Stranger
#56537: May 4th 2017 at 9:21:08 AM

It is weird how Gohan being smart isn't useful at all to him being a fighter. I've seen other Shonen/anime where being smart or trickster is useful in battle. :p

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#56538: May 4th 2017 at 9:26:29 AM

Gohan is book smart, but that's not the same as being a fighting strategist. Super Buu used cunning and psychological warfare against Gohan and Gotenks to beat both, for example.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#56539: May 4th 2017 at 9:58:09 AM

Yea, scholarly knowledge isn't really helpful in a straight up fight.

That's why Goku is a fighting genius.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
BigBlackBangBro Time Stranger Since: Sep, 2016
Time Stranger
#56540: May 4th 2017 at 10:07:37 AM

[up]I would usually say it depends but lots of characters in DB have straightforward abilities. :p

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Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#56541: May 4th 2017 at 10:33:30 AM

Academic intelligence involves problem solving and critical thinking which can in fact be helpful in the context of this series. Gohan being the team strategist hopefully shows that.

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#56542: May 4th 2017 at 11:36:22 AM

Gohan knows a whole lot more about peach farming than his enemies ever will.

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#56543: May 4th 2017 at 2:12:46 PM

[up] Unless that enemy also happens to be a peach farmer.....

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#56544: May 4th 2017 at 2:19:44 PM

What exactly does Gohan have a degree in?

Like he's a scholar alright but what kind of scholar, what's his major?

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#56545: May 4th 2017 at 2:35:28 PM

The only story in which he's actually published anything is the backstory of Dragonball Online, where his work was on ki manipulation and scientific basis for detecting it and measuring it, meaning the world at large suddenly knew that ki exists and that anyone can use it with the right training.

So, given that, my guess would be physics.

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#56546: May 4th 2017 at 5:08:11 PM

So apparently, Caulifla isn't She-Broly after all, and that's a whole 'nother female Saiyan named Keru/Kale, meaning there's gonna be three Saiyans on U6's team.

edited 4th May '17 5:15:05 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#56547: May 4th 2017 at 5:24:20 PM

Source?

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#56548: May 4th 2017 at 5:25:02 PM

Makes sense and from what I've read, she hates Cabba. Why do I get the feeling that he's going to end up the Butt-Monkey for Universe 6?

[up]The Dragon Ball Super website's source code, apparently.

edited 4th May '17 5:27:06 PM by LordVatek

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#56549: May 4th 2017 at 5:31:15 PM

I'm curious how exactly that works.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#56550: May 4th 2017 at 5:32:34 PM

How exactly what works?

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