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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#56476: May 2nd 2017 at 10:58:28 PM

What I find even more disappointing about him is that he gave up martial arts to chase after woman. What a fucking waste cause at least Gohan went after the right woman while his brother is just wasting his time as a player.

I mean that was in GT but still very disgraceful.

Wasting all that talent just to pick up girls, mmmmm, mmmm, mmmm (while shaking my head), that boy ain't right.

edited 2nd May '17 11:03:00 PM by slimcoder

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#56477: May 2nd 2017 at 11:07:27 PM

His heads in the right place...

Girls are nice...

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#56478: May 2nd 2017 at 11:49:48 PM

He's thinking with the wrong head is the problem.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#56479: May 3rd 2017 at 1:14:17 AM

I swear, the Dragon Ball fandom at large acts like a bunch of closeted jocks in the 90s sometimes. Like, do you even lift bro? How much can you bench? Why are you wasting your time with nerd stuff or girls when you could be getting swole? You don't work out enough, wimp, get out of my sight.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#56480: May 3rd 2017 at 1:17:12 AM

that's only half

the other half are neeeeeeeeeerds

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#56481: May 3rd 2017 at 1:25:18 AM

That's easy to explain.

One half of the fandom was raised by the original DB, while the other half was raised by DBZ.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#56482: May 3rd 2017 at 1:25:53 AM

nope one half are just neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerds

really tho the generalizations are just dumb, especially when it's just of groups who disagree with you.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#56483: May 3rd 2017 at 1:32:52 AM

Forgive us for wanting the characters in our fighting shounen series to care about fighting.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#56484: May 3rd 2017 at 1:36:38 AM

also I don't know why Goten gets so much hate. I think he just has the misfortune of being introduced in the last arc, so he didn't get much development. His GT characterization wasn't bad, and he had some good character moments and cool scenes, but GT just suffered as a whole from poor writing and really terrible use of their characters.

And being a newcomer in the last arc means that nostalgia and fanservice driven sequels don't have much interest in doing anything new with him, which he desperately needs.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#56485: May 3rd 2017 at 2:17:50 AM

Well his canon characterization has literally gone nowhere, he has always been the bratty sidekick of Trunks and no more than that. His only other thing now is Chi Chi pulling the same terrible shit on him as she did on Gohan.

They have straight up written both of them out of this next arc but at least Trunks got some scenes with his older self.

GT just underused him as a Cast Herd character.

edited 3rd May '17 2:18:16 AM by Memers

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#56486: May 3rd 2017 at 2:25:04 AM

Nowadays, Goten's being written as smarter, more knowledgeable, and more reasonable, which I think is an interesting direction to take the character, even if he's still sidelined.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#56487: May 3rd 2017 at 3:12:01 AM

That's neat and all.

But when is his next "real" contribution?

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#56488: May 3rd 2017 at 4:29:32 AM

Goten doesn't really have a purpose aside from being a Generation Xerox of Goku, and his relationship with Trunks to be a friendly mirror to their fathers. Hell, I'd argue he was introduced just to introduce the concept of fusion with characters who are essentially Goku and Vegeta lite.

There's nothing objectionably bad about him, but I can't say that I particularly care about him either. Super makes this even more disappointing by completely sidelining him whenever possible. At least Trunks had Shu, Pilaf, Mai and his Future Self to bounce off of.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#56489: May 3rd 2017 at 4:31:06 AM

I'd not entirely sure I can believe Toriyama having thought of fusion before he thought of goten

loooooooong time between the two of those being introduced

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#56491: May 3rd 2017 at 4:46:23 AM

The character isn't used enough...?

The problem's out in the open, mates.

Gotendo just does not get a chance to shine.

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BigBlackBangBro Time Stranger Since: Sep, 2016
Time Stranger
#56492: May 3rd 2017 at 4:59:53 AM

Did Goten chase after women or was he only dating one girl?

35 year old white man.
TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#56493: May 3rd 2017 at 5:50:49 AM

I'd not entirely sure I can believe Toriyama having thought of fusion before he thought of goten loooooooong time between the two of those being introduced

Especially considering the way Toriyama writes; it's unlikely that he would have thought that far in advance.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#56494: May 3rd 2017 at 6:09:48 AM

[up][up]He had a Girl friend...

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BigBlackBangBro Time Stranger Since: Sep, 2016
Time Stranger
#56495: May 3rd 2017 at 6:35:38 AM

[up]Yeah I'm pretty sure Goten being a player is a thing people blow out of proportion. He's just trying to get with one girl :p

35 year old white man.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#56496: May 3rd 2017 at 6:38:21 AM

I thought bein' a playah was Yamucha's thing....

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#56497: May 3rd 2017 at 6:57:14 AM

I just realized, Vegeta knows his wife's favorite food, as well as how often she eats it and other foods she likes.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#56498: May 3rd 2017 at 7:07:11 AM

Well his canon characterization has literally gone nowhere, he has always been the bratty sidekick of Trunks and no more than that.

No, Trunks is the bratty one who leads him around. Goten's thing is being the good-natured one who is up for whatever so long as it's fun. Perhaps not much more substantive, but what do you do.

But, yeah, I honestly don't get what's supposed to be so terrible about Goten. And I have to agree with Pushover's and Saiga's general point about the Dragon Ball fandom. You have people screaming that Gohan not wanting to fight all the time is a sign that he's a better person than his father and Vegeta and should never been questioned, and then others going on about how him actually doing what he wants to do (be a scholar, still vague, but whatever) is ruining his character.

And, yes, these are all generalizations, but probably generalizations we've all encountered at least once.

edited 3rd May '17 7:08:42 AM by LSBK

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#56499: May 3rd 2017 at 7:17:45 AM

I also agree that people are being too hard on Goten.

And I have to agree with Pushover's and Saiga's general point about the Dragon Ball fandom.

And I don't think I've ever seen them agree on anything either. Funny thing that. I could be wrong though.

I suppose there's only one thing to say about DB fandom.

We're all a bunch of jerks.

Except for that Handsome Rob fella. He's pretty cool.cool

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#56500: May 3rd 2017 at 7:21:50 AM

One of the more underrated parts of Super I feel is Goten growing up and no longer thinking the Saiyaman costume is cool.

This song needs more love.

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