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Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#55951: Apr 17th 2017 at 9:30:09 PM

Well, it was cute, you know?

Also, is interesting to notice Bardock appeared in a panel in the manga (Thanks to the movie, yes), but knowing Dragon Ball Minus, it appears Manga! Bardock was pretty heroic to being with.

Frieza was as great as I remember, the fights with him were pretty enjoyable, and I love how he was so unstoppable. I also enjoyed his personality along his henchmen (though we hardly knew Guldo, but whatever)

And Vegeta and 18 being so annoyed during Goku visit is funny for some reason.

edited 17th Apr '17 9:34:32 PM by Tomodachi

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55952: Apr 17th 2017 at 9:34:20 PM

Because it's not Goku. And I'm not sure I buy Goten reacting that way either.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#55953: Apr 17th 2017 at 9:42:35 PM

I need roshi to fight dypso (?). I feel like its inevitable.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55954: Apr 17th 2017 at 9:51:46 PM

[up][up] Huh that depresses me a little.

Saying that Goku isn't being Goku by hugging his own son. Seriously how is that out of character for him, didn't Goku hug Gohan near the end of the Buu Saga before the latter went off to fight Super Buu? Is he incapable of giving hugs?

edited 17th Apr '17 9:53:17 PM by slimcoder

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55955: Apr 17th 2017 at 9:54:53 PM

I'm not saying that Goku doesn't display affection, but I don't think his first instinct in that situation would be "hug", and I don't think it would be Goten's either.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#55956: Apr 17th 2017 at 9:57:47 PM

Some observations:

1. Remember when Shin was all smug and not cute and incompetent?

2. Where are the furry people? Did Cell kill them all?

3. I can see Team Four Star making 18 and Vegeta a comedic duo in the Buu saga.

Also, Goku not hugging his son is mean bro. Is Vegeta level of mean!

edited 17th Apr '17 9:59:57 PM by Tomodachi

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#55957: Apr 17th 2017 at 10:00:57 PM

I like how we actually have to call into question on if a father hugging his son he's met for first time is something that's good. Really makes you think about the type of series this is.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55958: Apr 17th 2017 at 10:03:18 PM

I didn't say I didn't like the moment. It's just one of those things that makes me ask "would the characters in question really act this way, in this situation?" and I lean towards "no".

edited 17th Apr '17 10:03:43 PM by LSBK

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#55959: Apr 17th 2017 at 10:05:12 PM

I say yes, heck, Goku may not kiss his wife, but at least he hugs her and Gohan! or are you trying to imply the only person he ever hugged was Grandpa Gohan and Krillin?

edited 17th Apr '17 10:08:47 PM by Tomodachi

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55960: Apr 17th 2017 at 10:06:13 PM

Rule of Heartwarming then.

edited 17th Apr '17 10:06:24 PM by slimcoder

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55961: Apr 17th 2017 at 10:46:05 PM

A son meeting his father for the first time would invoke some kind of heartwarming...

It kind of makes sense, since in that scene Karrot is re-uniting with friends and family and it tops of with meeting and hugging new son: Gotendo.

The way the scene plays out is questions...

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#55962: Apr 17th 2017 at 11:53:25 PM

What exactly is the problem with the scene then?

I honestly don't see anything wrong with it, I don't have any issue with how the characters were portrayed or their actions executed.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55963: Apr 18th 2017 at 12:08:02 AM

It's just random...

Too sappy for DBZ...

Negative...

edited 18th Apr '17 12:09:14 AM by randomness4

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55964: Apr 18th 2017 at 1:49:47 AM

Tomodachi, 16 does mention the birds in the manga. He doesn't interact with them directly, but he is watching them while the other Androids are fighting. It's not Informed Attribute, the scene is just slightly different because the focus isn't on him.

Vegeta leaving Earth and returning doesn't fix any flaw - at the end of the Namek arc, his last suit of armour is damaged. It makes sense that he'd switch to regular clothes, especially since he was not expecting Freeza to show up. You think he'd wear the same damaged suit of armour 24/7 otherwise?

Goku also does hug Goten in the manga - when he's leaving for other world. And it makes more sense in the manga version that Goten is so shy during this scene because unlike the anime version he hasn't hugged Goku before. It's more meaningful than them hugging when they first meet and don't know each other at all.

edited 18th Apr '17 1:51:50 AM by Saiga

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55965: Apr 18th 2017 at 2:25:39 AM

Well, on the scene with Veggie...

It didn't really mean anything that he left, he came back with the same damaged suit of armor.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#55966: Apr 18th 2017 at 3:48:49 AM

[up][up] I'm gonna have to disagree on that last part, at least on the part of it being any more meaningful than in the manga.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55967: Apr 18th 2017 at 3:52:50 AM

It certainly means a lot less for Goten to be shy and stuff when he hugged Goku earlier the same day without as much of a fuss.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55968: Apr 18th 2017 at 3:54:15 AM

I thought he was acting timid because he was gonna say goodbye to his father forever after only just meeting him for a day.

Yeah Goku quickly returned to life but the kid didn't know that.

edited 18th Apr '17 3:55:08 AM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#55969: Apr 18th 2017 at 4:00:15 AM

Yea, I always felt like he just didn't know how to say goodbye to his Dad and as far as he (and Goku himself) knew, he'd never see him again.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55970: Apr 18th 2017 at 4:04:02 AM

you'd think that because the anime fucked it up

like they fuck everything up

forever

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#55971: Apr 18th 2017 at 4:06:19 AM

Naw, you're just mad cuz you can't blame Toei for once :V

Dey got u.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55972: Apr 18th 2017 at 4:08:51 AM

Yeah I thought the anime improved & expanded upon stuff.

The only fuck up that comes to mind in the anime is that when Gohan hugged his father before going off to face Super Buu, Goku didn't return it unlike in the manga where he did return the hug.

edited 18th Apr '17 4:09:21 AM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#55973: Apr 18th 2017 at 4:18:37 AM

So I heard LSSJ lady is Cabba's wife, is that legit?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55974: Apr 18th 2017 at 4:26:51 AM

I can blame Toei. Because Toei made a completely unnessecary addition which does not add any depth that wasn't already there, and does not mesh as well with a later scene.

Toei gon Toei

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#55975: Apr 18th 2017 at 4:31:16 AM

And I already explained that the depth is there and doesn't contradict anything. You can dislike it all you want, but there's nothing actually wrong with it and is possibly better in certain cases.

cool

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