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UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#55851: Apr 15th 2017 at 6:44:50 PM

Personally, I like that there's an environmental aesop in the episode that's actually really subtle instead of right in your face, presented here as merely casual conversation that is brought up instead of taking the focus away from what Goku's doing.

Though the alien poachers shown at the end of the episode and the preview are clearly a Diablos Ex Machina that's meant to be the catalyst that gets 17 recruited, making the green aesop more overt.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55852: Apr 15th 2017 at 6:46:20 PM

At least an Android doesn't grow weaker due to lack of exercise. Krillen learned that the hard way or at least more shamefully.

Also I think Gohan needs some new glasses. I mean I don't know I think they went to far with the whole nerd look. At least get black rimmed Clark Kent glasses cause that is the classy nerd look. Those never go out of style.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
CountofBleck Starting to believe in himself from New Wirral (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Starting to believe in himself
#55853: Apr 15th 2017 at 8:38:46 PM

So are we just going to brush aside that they confirmed Uub in this episode?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55854: Apr 15th 2017 at 8:40:25 PM

Eh. They did that at the start of the Universe 6 arc.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#55855: Apr 15th 2017 at 8:40:30 PM

Uub needed confirmation?

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#55856: Apr 15th 2017 at 8:55:21 PM

You know, if 18 is still presumably around the same strength ballpark as 17 it makes even less sense that Krillin went to fight Freeza's invaders instead of her.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#55857: Apr 15th 2017 at 8:58:24 PM

18: "Why should I help protect Earth from an alien invasion? I can't get paid doing that!"

Note: I have not actually seen Resurrection F.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#55858: Apr 15th 2017 at 9:02:01 PM

Yeah 18 is all about that $Texas.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#55859: Apr 15th 2017 at 9:04:50 PM

It occurs to me that with the Great Saiyaman, Super-Cop and Cyborg Captain Planet on the case, the Earth basically has a bunch of superheroes running around. Naturally, none of them are Goku, but he does occasionally show up to try and beat them up every once in a while.

Ergo, Goku is a supervillain.

edited 15th Apr '17 9:05:34 PM by KnownUnknown

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#55860: Apr 15th 2017 at 9:04:57 PM

In the film Krillin basically guessed that Freeza wouldn't be an actual threat, and said someone would have to stay behind to look after Marron. Not that Krillin thought he could take out Freeza, but he was sure Goku could. At the time nobody knew about Freeza's astronomical jump in power.

Still kind of bullshit, but makes a bit more sense than the series, where Krillin actually was scared of Freeza's goons.

Anyway, as to the episode:

Those are some seriously well-equipped poachers 17 was fighting.

Curious non-reaction to the possibility of getting erased. Even if he doesn't value his own life that much, you'd think he'd want his family to survive at the least. Also damn you writers, I wanted to see what his family looked like!

edited 15th Apr '17 9:08:16 PM by DarkHunter

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55861: Apr 15th 2017 at 9:07:13 PM

[up]x4 No, she wanted to help, Kuririn told her to go get dinner ready for him when he comes back.

Literally.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#55864: Apr 15th 2017 at 9:25:40 PM

....um, he actually does tell 18 that someone needs to take care of Marron, hell he tells her that right before he asks her to shave his head for him, cause he wanted to go "old school". Actually, he doesn't even mention dinner at all.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55865: Apr 15th 2017 at 9:30:37 PM

So, how strong is 17 now? He fought Goku in Super Saiyan Blue pretty evenly, though it was later established that both of them were still holding back (whether Goku's holding back was referring to Kaio-Ken or not is ambiguous). Either way, 17 is pretty clearly one of the strongest fighters on Team U7. Interestingly enough, 17's method of getting this strong went unmentioned in the episode.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55866: Apr 15th 2017 at 9:34:34 PM

Can't remember if it's Super or RF but he definitely asks her to prepare dinner for him in one of them.

The Marron thing is pure bullcrap, they already explained it better in the BOG arc of Super that it makes more sense for 18 to fight and for him to hang back. Any threat that could require 18 to defend Marron would slaughter Kuririn, any threat that could get past 18 would just go on to kill Marron. She should be the first line of defense.

[up] Same strength as everyone in Super. Strong as They Need to Be.

edited 15th Apr '17 9:35:02 PM by Saiga

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#55867: Apr 15th 2017 at 9:37:07 PM

Not any worst than Goku suddenly being stronger than his Super Saiyan 3 form in his base during GT, even after getting turned into a child and losing some of his power in the process.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#55868: Apr 15th 2017 at 9:42:51 PM

17 is as strong as the plot needs him to be, because Super does not give a single shit about power levels. It operates on the rule of "Hey, this'd be cool, right?"

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55869: Apr 15th 2017 at 10:41:09 PM

[up][up] Being compared to GT is not much of a defense.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#55870: Apr 15th 2017 at 10:41:29 PM

GT was great though. tongue

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55871: Apr 15th 2017 at 11:13:04 PM

GT is great in the same way Super is great: it isn't.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#55872: Apr 15th 2017 at 11:16:36 PM

I think you made a typo, since I know you meant they are. tongue

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#55873: Apr 15th 2017 at 11:17:14 PM

Oh wow, we're at that point already.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#55874: Apr 15th 2017 at 11:25:29 PM

Yeah, me just having some fun. By the way, any good alternative names for Super Saiyan 4, since it really doesn't feel like a part of the main line and feels more like an offshoot from said line?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#55875: Apr 15th 2017 at 11:30:19 PM

Super Saiyan Ape?

I mean it's not really an ape, but that never stopped them from calling the form one.


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