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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55776: Apr 13th 2017 at 7:27:03 PM

I'm fairly sure Whis didn't say Beerus used 10% against Goku, and he was conflating the two lines.

However, Whis' comparison would still put 10% of Beerus above Goku if taken literally.

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#55777: Apr 13th 2017 at 7:33:50 PM

I couldn't remember if Whis named an exact amount, so I might have gotten the lines mixed up.

Regardless, he definitely did say that Beerus was lying when he claimed to have gone all-out.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55779: Apr 13th 2017 at 7:55:58 PM

Whis's line about Goku and Vegeta maybe beating Beerus if they worked together isn't just not taken out, it's actually leaned into and emphasised much more in Super than in 'F'.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55780: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:04:48 PM

That's very confusing given the other changes made. What episodes are you referencing?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55781: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:10:24 PM

Whatever episode is the end of the arc, Goku and Vegeta have an entire conversation about the possible merits of working together if they can beat Beerus with it while they're both eating from huge platters of food. Vegeta tells him that there's no way in hell that's happening, and Goku agrees.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55782: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:12:28 PM

Huh I hope there's an eventual menace where they have to work together.

No fusion like with Vegito or Gogeta, & no duo so they can split up like with Black & Zamasu. Just one guy so strong they have to tag-team him to beat his ass.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55783: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:41:42 PM

Goku: "If we'd teamed up from the start, we wouldn't have ended up in so much trouble. Maybe it'd be better if we teamed up every now and then?"
Vegeta: "Even so, I refuse."
Goku: "What a relief! I don't wanna, either."
Vegeta: "That's the first time we've agreed on something."

Beerus isn't mentioned there. Best I can tell, Whis' line about them working together to equal Beerus was also removed.

edited 13th Apr '17 8:41:51 PM by Saiga

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55784: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:46:18 PM

The reason they bring it up is because Whis tells them about the Beerus thing earlier in the arc.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55785: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:53:58 PM

I'm looking and can't find any mention of it.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#55786: Apr 13th 2017 at 9:49:47 PM

I recall that one was in context of the Frieza disaster.

Remember everyone: if the world is in danger, these two assholes still won't work together...as long as there are none gods bitching about NINGENS that is.

Call me nuts, but thank god for Zamasu. He at least made Goku and Vegeta pull their heads out of their asses about teaming up.

One Strip! One Strip!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55787: Apr 13th 2017 at 9:53:52 PM

Yeah, it's not like there was this Boo guy they worked together to fight before...

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#55788: Apr 13th 2017 at 10:15:15 PM

Reminds me of how Kaiba in Yu-Gi-Oh would always make a big deal about never teaming up with Yugi.

But then the anime would add filler where he teamed up with Yugi before the parts of the story where he addressed those issues.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#55789: Apr 13th 2017 at 10:18:17 PM

Well ok. Him too.

That's the thing though. It shouldn't take situations that bad for them to get over it.

Buu murdered almost everyone on the planet; Frieza actually did blow up the planet.

Zamasu also murdered damn near everyone before they did it.

It takes a lot for them to put their pride aside.

Though I admit I'm not being totally fair; Goku went in specifically looking for someone to fuse with, because things with Buu had gotten so bad. Still when they had a chance to do it again and end things quickly, they deliberately opted not to, and almost lost multiple times because of it.

One Strip! One Strip!
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#55790: Apr 13th 2017 at 10:19:13 PM

They only worked together after Vegeta died like a moron.

By the way, I'm re-reading the manga. So much I missed, but i'm glad the series continued after Piccolo: Yamcha did nothing of value except dying, Krillin helped redeem a villain and sent the spirit bomb, and Tien had a moment of glory with Cell and fighting Buu, even if it was pointless.

Also, Tao pai Pai was sorta wasted, i'm glad the anime make him appear during the Cell saga.

Chiatzu did nothing of value either. At least Yamcha helped Goku when he was heart sick.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#55791: Apr 13th 2017 at 10:27:03 PM

For as much ribbing as Yamcha and Krillin get, at least they're memorable enough to be teased.

Chiaotzu is basically nonexistent in the eyes of the fanbase.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55792: Apr 13th 2017 at 10:28:09 PM

He's just Tien's BFF.

Thats all he is really.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#55793: Apr 13th 2017 at 10:30:00 PM

I can't tell if he's supposed to be a child or not.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55794: Apr 13th 2017 at 10:39:24 PM

Yes, he's been a child for over 30 years...

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#55795: Apr 13th 2017 at 10:50:56 PM

By the by, i'm reading the Tarble special manga. It says this story takes place two years after the Buu Saga.

How many years had happened between Buu and Beerus, again?

Update: I also found funny how Tarble managed to find the Namekians, but Sorbet and his men couldn't do. Maybe he found it through Space-guide.

edited 13th Apr '17 10:57:18 PM by Tomodachi

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#55796: Apr 13th 2017 at 11:48:27 PM

[up][up]Zeno's been a child for centuries. Also Kid Buu.

Then there's Goten and Trunks...

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55797: Apr 13th 2017 at 11:52:59 PM

Hopefully if Super ever gets to End of Z & beyond Goten & Trunks actually age.

Actually the rest of the cast too. Nearly everyone looks noticeably older at that point such as Bulma for example.

Pan & Bulla being the most obvious case as well.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55798: Apr 14th 2017 at 12:05:39 AM

Blooma and Gohand are the most obvious case, excuse...

Pan and Bulla didn't exist before the End of Z...

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#55799: Apr 14th 2017 at 12:43:59 AM

Spoilers for episode 87 of DBS...

We see who the poachers/invaders are, they seem rich/piratish.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#55800: Apr 14th 2017 at 1:00:48 AM

Oh my god, Bojack became canon!

So... you think 17 and Goku are going to become besties?

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.

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