Sure it can. The anime gets things wrong all the time. You've been in this thread long enough to have seen constant complaints about it.
The anime saying something to the effect about Cold being Frieza's equal or superior doesn't change that Cold admitted Frieza was stronger than him. It just means the anime had people working on it who assumed Frieza's father must be stronger than him, because that's a common misconception.
edited 12th Apr '17 6:20:32 PM by LSBK
Yeah, but Killis don't count since we're not sure what they actually mean.
How high is <insert numerical value here> Killis compared to the last bunch of power levels we saw on Namek?
One Strip! One Strip!According to the wiki:
Cold's power is not mentioned in the manga but has been mentioned in the the anime. In the dub when Frieza and Cold were landing on Earth, both Gohan and Krillin sensed Cold's power, stating it was higher than Mecha Frieza's (though Mecha Frieza was heavily suppressed at the time), in the original Japanese version it is simply mentioned that Cold had an absurdly large ki.
Math has taught me that it doesn't work at absurdly large numbers.
I'll use that reasoning to explain why power levels don't work once they get high enough.
Also I'd to use the law of diminishing returns to explain power levels. Meaning that after a certain point for every unit of power one goes up, they increasingly get less and less power out of it.
Now training only pushes you along what I like to call the ki production function curve .
The Super Saiyan forms and God Ki shifts the curve upwards.
Here's a graph. The x input is training time. The y production is power.
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And the variables that shift the curve upward are transformations.
I wonder why Toriyama made Goku and Beerus so close in power in the movie, said that he doesn't want Goku to surpass Beerus, and then gives him a new transformation that further closes the gap.
Why don't just have Goku be a 7, Beerus be a 15, and Whis be a 30? That way, Goku has room to become a 10 or something, but still ultimately be weaker.
I get the feeling that when Battle of Gods was written, nobody expected Super to become a thing, nor that Beerus would become a main character in it. If Toriyama had known he had more story to write, the power gap would probably have been a lot larger.
The Retcon in Super supports this: rather than saying he used 70% of his power, Beerus claims that he went all-out, but Whis later privately says something like "You liar. You barely used 10%."
Why don't just have Goku be a 7, Beerus be a 15, and Whis be a 30? That way, Goku has room to become a 10 or something, but still ultimately be weaker.
Because that transformation still didn't let him surpass Beerus. Goku was a 6 to Beerus' 10, and with the new transformation Vegeta and Goku combined could fight evenly with Beerus. Toriyama didn't say that Goku would never surpass Beerus, just that he didn't have plans for it. I think Goku would have made gradual improvements until he caught up with, and surpassed, Beerus. If movies continued to come every 2-3 years and did not cover a huge amount of content, I think that would take quite some time.
I definitely prefer that to the gap being made so large they can continue to have Goku getting huge power ups without ever changing the status quo.
Toriyama saying he had no plans for Goku to ever surpass Beerus happened before the Future Trunks arc, right? It's not impossible that Goku surpasses Beerus in this arc, and I think Vegetto and Fused Zamasu were stronger than him, considering that Goku and Vegeta working together might be able to beat Beerus, and Potara fusion is WAY more of an increase than just A + B.
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Didn't Super omit the line about Goku and Vegeta working together being able to fight evenly with Beerus? I know they added one about Goku being a 3 metre tree to Beerus' 100 metre tree.
He could. I should have mentioned before, but if things had gone on the way they were presented in Resurrection F, I would have also liked to see Beerus start training when Goku/Vegeta get close to him in power so they surpass Beerus' original level before they actually catch up and surpass the current Beerus. So it's not just "Goku/Vegeta will never reach Beerus" or "Goku/Vegeta will keep improving until they eventually surpass a static Beerus".
edited 13th Apr '17 7:13:17 PM by Saiga
Geeze, that retcon feels especially shameless after Beerus talked about using 10% of his power against rage boost Vegeta earlier in the arc.

Didn't the anime hint that Cold was stronger? Because if so, it's not completely fanon.
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