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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55726: Apr 12th 2017 at 3:30:56 PM

Yeah he's prolly a specialized guy. Like he knows hes physically weaker but his pure speed is greater than his strength or defense.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55727: Apr 12th 2017 at 3:40:37 PM

And Recoome's the endurance guy, which comes with the territory of doing ballet.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#55728: Apr 12th 2017 at 3:41:37 PM

Burter boasting about being the fastest in the universe was always nonsense.

[up]I think they all do ballet. Those poses need a great sense of balance and creativity with your body.

Also can confirm. Ballet dancers are very... enduring.

edited 12th Apr '17 3:42:55 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55729: Apr 12th 2017 at 3:43:12 PM

Arrogance man..... that or Burtur had some self-esteem issues. tongue

Anyone who proclames that there the best at something is usually shown up.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55730: Apr 12th 2017 at 3:47:43 PM

I give Burter the benefit of the doubt and trust that he was faster than anyone not named Freeza, or any of the gods. Maybe Ginyu was just slow.

UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#55731: Apr 12th 2017 at 3:52:44 PM

[up][up][up]You dated one?

edited 12th Apr '17 3:58:34 PM by UdtheImp

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#55732: Apr 12th 2017 at 3:53:57 PM

No, Ginyu wasn't outclassed as thoroughly as Burter was in terms of speed. Ginyu is definitely faster than Burter.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55733: Apr 12th 2017 at 3:55:07 PM

All of the Ginyu's stuff was supposed to be based on things from their childhood, apparently. Burter's boasts were always nonsense, but that doesn't mean he didn't genuinely believe them, and he wasn't the only one to say it.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#55734: Apr 12th 2017 at 4:05:31 PM

Well they are all insane.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#55735: Apr 12th 2017 at 4:34:43 PM

Well, Burter says he's the fastest in the universe, so that must mean it's true.

He can probably outpace Beerus.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#55736: Apr 12th 2017 at 5:00:12 PM

@ Jeice: Just because Freeza is several times weaker than him in his weakest state doesn't mean he's slower. Battle strength doesn't exactly equal speed.

It's kind of crazy to think just how powerful Freeza is, and by extension the Z Fighters are, compared to the rest of the universe. Before the Namek Saga Freeza's most powerful form, which is nothing compared to what he was after 4 months of training, was 120 million. The only characters at the time who surpassed him were Majin Buu(who's inactive), Shin, maybe King Cold(who's his father) and Beerus. It's heavily implied he still surpassed every mortal at the time except King Cold at even a fraction of that power.

To wit; in his weakest form he's at 530,000. His elites rank at 5 digits at most, and the mercenary Ginyu was at 6 digits. It's implied even before levelling up the only people who surpassed him asides from possibly his father(its ambiguous) in power were supernatural or artificial in origin, the Super Saiyans or the results of fusion. It's kind of crazy to think that there was such a ridiculously huge(albeit quite implicit) spike in the overall Top 10 or 20 fighters. Which is probably the tyrants' fault

In hindsight to my previous query, there's some ambiguity towards the actual dirty cowards and showing justifiable fear. Dr Gero's acts come off as more Combat Pragmatism mixed with Smug Snake (though to be fair he was blindsighted), Freeza is more of an Ax-Crazy The Bully mixed with The Paranoiac and the such, while King Piccolo was playing dirty tricks with human shields. The characters that come off as truly cowardly was Raditz(the stunt he pulled and the fact he's acting completely un-Saiyan), Babidi(who's always snivelling and very incompetent) and the such

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#55737: Apr 12th 2017 at 5:15:59 PM

It's not ambiguous. King Cold is not stronger than Freeza, the idea that he is has always been 100% fanon.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#55738: Apr 12th 2017 at 5:21:16 PM

But, but... he has seven forms!

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#55739: Apr 12th 2017 at 5:26:18 PM

That's always hilarious. There's no end to the people who think he had extra, stronger forms that he just didn't use even though Freeza was stronger.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55740: Apr 12th 2017 at 5:31:38 PM

[up][up] Is that from that Multiverse webcomic?

[up] Well Frieza has a fifth form so having an extra form is not impossible.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#55741: Apr 12th 2017 at 5:34:46 PM

[up]Yep, and they look ridiculous.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55742: Apr 12th 2017 at 5:35:18 PM

[up][up]I think you mean Cooler, and he doesn't factor into the equation. Frieza's transformation were created to restrict his power, not give him more. His most powerful state is his natural state.

edited 12th Apr '17 5:35:50 PM by LSBK

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55743: Apr 12th 2017 at 5:40:05 PM

[up][up] I knew it.

How is it anyway, the comic I mean, is it readable?

[up] Your right. Sadly Cooler isn't canon despite having the Cooler form.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#55744: Apr 12th 2017 at 5:52:39 PM

And yet Golden Frieza is a thing.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#55745: Apr 12th 2017 at 5:52:50 PM

That depends on your definition of readable.

I mean, it is in English. So technically, yes.

My various fanfics.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55746: Apr 12th 2017 at 5:54:01 PM

He intentionally made it look that way though, who even knows if it would made him look any different without his intervention.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#55747: Apr 12th 2017 at 5:55:33 PM

Except we have seen it when it wasn't gold in the original movie, and it still looked different from his base form.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55748: Apr 12th 2017 at 5:56:12 PM

[up][up][up] Ok should have phrased that better, is it worth a read? Is it good or decent at least.

[up] Just more muscular really.

I hope Frost gets a fifth form then.

edited 12th Apr '17 5:56:49 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55749: Apr 12th 2017 at 6:01:41 PM

And that's still different in nature from his other transformations, and not the same thing as what Cooler was doing.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#55750: Apr 12th 2017 at 6:06:23 PM

It wasn't just buffer; parts of Frieza's body in that form had altered proportions and those colored spots on his body were in different positions.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!

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