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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55676: Apr 10th 2017 at 5:25:41 AM

Also, just one thing on before...

I don't think there's anything necessarily sexist about the fight in a vacuum removed of all other context, but given the rest of the series' track record with women and the condescending "he isn't going easy on her even though she's a woman" line, I can't help but be at least a little suspicious of the authorial intent. Especially since as a character, Videl amounts to nothing more than arm candy for Gohan.

Aren't those two things at odds with each other, though? Gohan's basically agreeing with the crowd that thinks Videl should get special treatment for being female. So if that was Toriyama's intent, or something that slipped through, it probably means that he didn't have her get badly beaten because she's a woman or whatever - which is what a lot of the people who seem to take issue with the fight assume.

If there was any intent there it was probably just to show how awful Spopovich was. Which is based on a double standard, but is really the opposite of what people seem to find uncomfortable about the scene.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#55677: Apr 10th 2017 at 6:13:57 AM

Wait, how are they as strong as Boo?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55678: Apr 10th 2017 at 6:20:00 AM

Apparently, 'because they haven't been in any tough fights in years'. I assume this translates to 'their Infinite Energy Generators essentially give them Broly's canon shtick (regenerating energy) and his fanon shtick (constantly growing stronger if the energy isn't used up)'.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#55679: Apr 10th 2017 at 6:21:27 AM

Wait, where is that info coming from?

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#55680: Apr 10th 2017 at 6:26:19 AM

Why didn't 18 beat up Buu, then?

Was it because no one paid her to? I bet it was because no one paid her to.

edited 10th Apr '17 6:26:36 AM by Hobgoblin

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#55681: Apr 10th 2017 at 6:27:01 AM

[up]Yeah, I was thinking about that too.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55682: Apr 10th 2017 at 6:37:39 AM

I thought some reasons for her not attacking Super Buu.

She was scared of him, he prolly reminded her of Cell & that dredged up some traumatic memories, she prioritized the protection of her daughter over fighting him, Super Buu was just that strong even with her increased power & the most logical one being the fact that she was taken out by an attack that affects you regardless of power-level before she could retaliate.

Super Gohan Buu was able to turn Vegito into a candy despite the latter being so much stronger than him its hilarious.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Demetrios Making darkness adorable since 1999 from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55684: Apr 10th 2017 at 7:26:53 AM

It's also possible that she's just unaware of the phenomena at the moment and thinks that her Power Level is still where it was when she was first introduced.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#55685: Apr 10th 2017 at 8:41:04 AM

Wait, where was it said that's why 17 is stronger?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#55686: Apr 10th 2017 at 8:55:08 AM

I quoted someone who read the TV guide Japanese magazine. From another website of course.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
LLSmoothJ (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#55688: Apr 10th 2017 at 10:44:09 AM

On Universe 6 having a higher level than Universe 7: Remember when we were speculating that Universe 7 was the evil universe and 6 the good universe? There you go.

edited 10th Apr '17 10:44:37 AM by LLSmoothJ

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#55690: Apr 10th 2017 at 11:09:35 AM

I assume it's an interpretation of mortal level as "moral fiber". Which it seems to be but also average power level? It's kind of unclear.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#55691: Apr 10th 2017 at 11:40:57 AM

So of cell had absorbed thsee stronger versions of 17 and 18, would his perfect form be stronger?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
LLSmoothJ (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#55693: Apr 10th 2017 at 1:38:29 PM

[up]x3 I mean that's the reason why Universe 6 has a higher mortal level than Universe 7. Universe 6 Saiyans are basically Bully Hunters while the Universe 7 Saiyans have no problem wiping out all life on a planet if not the planet itself, for example.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55694: Apr 10th 2017 at 1:49:59 PM

Unless the next episode contradicts it, these are my guesstimations for U7 team tiers:

SSB KK Goku

SSB Goku and Vegeta

Gohan (if he gets his shit together and/or gets Godly Ki)

SS3 Goku

SS2 Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan(?)

SS1 Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan

Piccolo, Buu, 17, and 18

Base Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan

Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Roshi

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55695: Apr 10th 2017 at 2:10:35 PM

[up][up]Odd sssumption; you think Zeno cares about morality or that the Saiyans actually matter that much.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#55696: Apr 10th 2017 at 5:32:34 PM

He has some sort of standards though.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#55697: Apr 10th 2017 at 5:36:08 PM

For all we know, his standards is based on the amount of pudding in any given universe.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#55698: Apr 10th 2017 at 6:07:58 PM

[up]If that's the case, U1 must have a couple of planet made completely out of pudding. XD

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HITTING HELPY!!
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#55699: Apr 10th 2017 at 6:09:34 PM

So we're blaming Buu for this now?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#55700: Apr 10th 2017 at 11:35:10 PM

Universal Japan is bring back the Universal Jump Summer this year!

Of course DB is coming back with the Real 4D movie attraction, as well as some One Piece, Gintama and Jojo attractions too!

edited 10th Apr '17 11:35:36 PM by Rinsankajugin


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