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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#55576: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:15:03 PM

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Yeah. I've considered that as well. If he's willing to pull her back in when she's about to fall out, I'm sure putting a hand over her mouth would have been easy as well.

I do think that the situation isn't totally unprecedented. Consider Goku's fight with Jr. Sure, at that point, there was no way to actually stop Piccolo beyond Goku winner, but the tournament announcer has seen a situation where one fighter had the other at his mercy like that. He should have perhaps put in some kind of rules patch stating that in the even that one fighter is unable to fight back, but unwilling to surrender, he can choose to stop the match.

But that's perhaps me expecting far too much.

[up]Eh, if it had gone on a bit longer, he might have changed his mind truthfully.

I mean, she almost fell out of the ring earlier and he didn't try to stop it until the second time (when he knew she could no longer save herself).

We can be sure, because she still had the strength to say no.

edited 9th Apr '17 12:16:54 PM by HandsomeRob

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#55577: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:18:08 PM

That is simply not how the Martial Arts Tournament works. The fight is until ring out, a fighter's unable to fight or they surrender.

No more, no less.

The fact that the fight wasn't even stopped when Tao Pai Pai pulled a blade on Tien should tell you that they don't really enforce the rules very much.

(Also important: the rules are frequently impossible to enforce anyway because most, if not all, the fighters are usually several orders of magnitude beyond what your average security guard would be able to handle)

edited 9th Apr '17 12:20:01 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#55578: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:21:49 PM

Well, it was before that fight. I'd find it hard to believe there weren't some obvious rule patches after the Spopovitch incident.

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if my real issue is that, like others, this is Videl's only fight in the entire series. Her one battle is her getting crushed utterly.

If you like the character, that's an extremely bitter pill to swallow.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55579: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:23:26 PM

I feel like most fans don't really process that. It was like that with the chunin exams in Naruto too, except there killing actually was allowed.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#55580: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:24:09 PM

Guess I'll throw my 2 cents in. Outside of obviously Videl being a female come into play here, I think why it rubs so many the wrong way is that Videl is also a muggle suffering a drawn out beatdown.

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#55581: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:24:10 PM

"Chastising the officials for not calling the match is asking for Videl to receive special treatment. Why?"

Because it's their job.

If a fight is too one sided, the referee is supposed to step in.

That isn't special treatment, it's the rules. These aren't fights to the death, remember?

That's how it is in every combat sport.

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Tao was disqualified the second he pulled out his blade.

edited 9th Apr '17 12:26:20 PM by Cortez

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55582: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:28:15 PM

[up]That's never been the rule. Yeah, killing your opponent means you're disqualified, but they've never gone "this person is obviously going to win, so let's call the match". Not as far as I can remember, anyway. It's either ring out or surrender.

edited 9th Apr '17 12:47:46 PM by LSBK

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#55583: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:35:03 PM

Tao Pai Pai was disqualified, but I saw no monks jumping into the ring. The fight was not stopped.

Also [up] has already told you that you're wrong regarding the referee's job.

@Lionheart 0

Videl ain't a 'muggle' though. In fact, she probably has more ki training than Spopovich does.

edited 9th Apr '17 12:36:02 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55584: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:46:10 PM

I mean, I could see them ending the match after he kept her from falling out, but at the same time, not ending the match after that also makes sense, and seems more consistent with how the tournaments are run.

edited 9th Apr '17 12:47:03 PM by LSBK

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#55585: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:50:05 PM

I disliked the fight because it felt really brutal to me, the same as some previous one sided fights, including the afformentioned Gohan and Recoome fight.

I could do without being called sexist for disliking it.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55586: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:54:18 PM

I don't think anyone called you, specifically, sexist. I and others just pointed out that a lot of the discomfort around it has an aura of sexism. If that's not your reason for disliking it, then cool, don't worry about this.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#55587: Apr 9th 2017 at 12:57:39 PM

[up][up]Disliking the fight doesn't make you sexist.

Even if it actually were for a sexist reason, it still doesn't make you sexist.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#55588: Apr 9th 2017 at 1:06:25 PM

Alright, glad that's cleared up.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#55589: Apr 9th 2017 at 1:21:31 PM

Good. Now, who wants to steal Toppo's suit?

It'd look good on Rob. I know this in my heart of hearts.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#55590: Apr 9th 2017 at 1:25:14 PM

Dude, I'm sure you can find someone willing to make one like it for you.

Stealing is wrong.

edited 9th Apr '17 1:25:22 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#55591: Apr 9th 2017 at 1:25:54 PM

If being "unable to fight" is a condition for losing...

Then they should've already called the match like halfway in...but that's never been how it was portrayed. It's only just being down for 10 seconds...didn't really matter how though considering how many times characters got up during a countdown.

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#55592: Apr 9th 2017 at 1:27:59 PM

[up][up][up] It's probably way too big for me.

edited 9th Apr '17 1:28:13 PM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#55593: Apr 9th 2017 at 1:34:01 PM

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Oh right. The ten count. They use that when someone isn't clearly knocked out, but isn't getting up I believe.

C'mon to think of it, Videl never stayed down long enough to allow a ten count, and old Spopovitch would pick her up before that could even happen as well near the end.

I'd forgotten that one.

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Only if you get caught. Plus, I'm cheap, and this way costs no money.

edited 9th Apr '17 1:34:33 PM by HandsomeRob

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#55594: Apr 9th 2017 at 1:38:56 PM

Rob, have you ever had a suit?

Because keeping it clean is, in itself, expensive.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55595: Apr 9th 2017 at 1:43:46 PM

Also, not really super important but,

Also, Videl breaking Spopovich's spine. To this day, I take that moment as proof that Videl was the superior fighter in that battle, and she only lost because of bullshit magical steroids.

That was clear from the very beginning. Everything we had seen, and everything everyone had said prior to that made it clear that Videl was the superior fighter. Why did it only take you until that moment to realize it? Or are you saying it because you thought that was actually up for debate?

edited 9th Apr '17 1:44:49 PM by LSBK

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#55596: Apr 9th 2017 at 1:50:02 PM

Yeah, even Mr. Satan pointed that out.

Speaking of which, flashback Spopovich's voice. [lol]

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55597: Apr 9th 2017 at 1:56:52 PM

It should be noted that the heroes were always better fighters than the villains from Freezerator onwards.

It's just that, the power gap overrides the skill gap...

In Boo's case, his whole is just unorthodox...

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#55598: Apr 9th 2017 at 1:57:17 PM

Rob, have you ever had a suit? Because keeping it clean is, in itself, expensive.

Yeah. I got a few. I only wear them for extremely special occasions, and clean them specially too.

Listen man. I just want to steal Toppo's shit. I'm saving my money.tongue

What's he gonna do? I'm Captain Scarlet.

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#55599: Apr 9th 2017 at 2:14:32 PM

[up] There is always Ebay.....is there Ebay int he Dragon Ball universe?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#55600: Apr 9th 2017 at 2:40:28 PM

I don't see why not?

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