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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55401: Apr 7th 2017 at 3:30:05 PM

19 felt fear.

Personality isn't the word I'm looking for, consciousness? sapience? sentience? I'm a bird person, not a word person.

edited 7th Apr '17 3:30:40 PM by Saiga

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#55402: Apr 7th 2017 at 3:44:28 PM

You can be both.

And the line between "insapient automaton" and "sapient mechanical life" is very blurry and subjective. Presumably, Metallitron just didn't meet Gero's standards of "android".

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#55403: Apr 7th 2017 at 3:45:11 PM

I thought you were a Phoenix Person now, Saiga?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55404: Apr 7th 2017 at 3:50:42 PM

[up] i don't understand the reference

[up][up] I think he was fully automated, which makes it less blurry. Can't think for himself (19 was able to offer his own suggestions to 20 etc).

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#55405: Apr 7th 2017 at 3:54:36 PM

I wonder who was stronger between Metalitron and Android 8?

The latter was higher up in the tower, which would imply greater strength, but he only had one demonstration of power, so there's not much to go on, compared to Metalitron.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55407: Apr 7th 2017 at 3:57:59 PM

He was the one robot who didn't feel pain...

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55409: Apr 7th 2017 at 4:09:29 PM

ohhh because bird person

hah

now I get it

[up][up][up][up] Android 8 was hyped up a lot more, and took a hit which incapacitated Goku (admittedly, Goku was hit from behind with it, but Goku still notes 8 is amazing for standing up to it).

edited 7th Apr '17 4:10:22 PM by Saiga

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#55410: Apr 7th 2017 at 4:33:16 PM

[up]

Well, lets not judge a character by hype.

Lots of guys get hyped up, then get rekt in this series.

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#55411: Apr 7th 2017 at 4:42:29 PM

Just ask Frieza who has been stated to be strongest person in the universe. [lol]

"Mai waifu."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55412: Apr 7th 2017 at 4:43:42 PM

[up] Poor example since he WAS the strongest character in the universe and outclassed everyone else by a huge margin until Goku went Super Saiyan.

[up][up] But he lived up to his hype...

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#55413: Apr 7th 2017 at 4:57:49 PM

I'll have to re-watch to see more of his feats (few though they are) but considering White was weaker than Goku, I'm not sure...

Well, ok, he punched the dude into orbit. I suppose he deserves some props. I'm gonna acknowledge that 8 was as big a deal as he was made out to be. That's probably why he was a pacifist.

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#55414: Apr 7th 2017 at 5:22:33 PM

Do you think 17 decision to become a park ranger is somehow influenced by 16's love for nature?

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55415: Apr 7th 2017 at 5:28:19 PM

No, it's because he drove through the woods that one time...

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55416: Apr 7th 2017 at 5:33:04 PM

[up][up][up] White's strength has nothing to do with his gun, which is what hurt Goku.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55417: Apr 7th 2017 at 5:34:51 PM

But Anime logic dictates that a gun is only as strong as its user....

So White may not have been able to kill Karrot, he probably could've knocked him.

edited 7th Apr '17 5:35:57 PM by randomness4

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#55418: Apr 7th 2017 at 5:39:13 PM

White's strength has nothing to do with his gun, which is what hurt Goku.

I clearly need to check both parts of that again. I almost called bullshit, but then I remembered that Goku could be somewhat hurt by Gun-fire (though nothing more than an Ouch! That hurts as far as how much it damages him).

We'll pick this up after I've jogged my memory on how it went down.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55419: Apr 7th 2017 at 5:45:48 PM

Man you must not remember that scene at all.

It was specifically a high powered fire-arm, different to the other gun he was using that was no threat to Goku.

[up][up] No. Dragon Ball doesn't use any such logic. White was clearly no match for Goku, which is why he resorted to the gun in the first place.

edited 7th Apr '17 5:46:18 PM by Saiga

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55420: Apr 7th 2017 at 5:52:15 PM

I mean...it clearly does, otherwise guns and sharpies should straight up kill.

I added on that second part, which wasn't true...but still.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55421: Apr 7th 2017 at 5:55:04 PM

Uh, no... it means the opposite in fact.

If guns scaled in power with the user, then Goku COULD pick up a gun and shoot anyone he could otherwise hurt. The reason the Z fighters are bulletproof isn't because they're stronger than the people with guns, it's because they're stronger than the guns.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#55422: Apr 7th 2017 at 6:03:38 PM

Or maybe guns work by the same principle that lets Trunks slice Frieza in half without the sword shattering on Frieza's super-tough cyborg body?

Nah, just kidding.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55423: Apr 7th 2017 at 6:07:57 PM

[up][up]There's no proof though...seeing that no one strong ever uses guns, remember?

While the sharp stuff does scale up...

Also, I can't picture Karrot using a gun.

"Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead using one of those."

edited 7th Apr '17 6:08:41 PM by randomness4

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#55424: Apr 7th 2017 at 6:17:17 PM

Guns likely don't work like that because Japan.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55425: Apr 7th 2017 at 6:32:17 PM

[up][up] Which means there is no evidence for the guns = person's power level theory.

What we instead have is guns that are stronger than their user, and able to hurt beings stronger than the user because that gun is stronger than normal.


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