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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#55351: Apr 5th 2017 at 9:33:29 PM

Well, don't forget, he was the third strongest Namekian for quite a while.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#55352: Apr 5th 2017 at 9:35:12 PM

[up][up]You know, the fact that he can fly fast should tell you that he's stronger than ordinary people.

Since, y'know, speed, strength and durability are linked in Dragon Ball, what with all of them coming from the same source and all.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55353: Apr 5th 2017 at 9:37:32 PM

No, it tells me he has some degree of ki control, which can be correlated to strength, but obviously isn't one and the same. Dende could fly when he was introduced but was still portrayed as being as frail as you would expect any child of his stature to be.

Question, do you think Videl could beat King Piccolo?

edited 5th Apr '17 9:39:30 PM by LSBK

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#55354: Apr 5th 2017 at 9:38:56 PM

Only if they learn the Body Change technique from Ginyu and then travel back in time with Bulma's time machine.

Edit: Damn, you fixed your typo.

edited 5th Apr '17 9:39:10 PM by Anomalocaris20

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#55355: Apr 5th 2017 at 9:39:20 PM

That leads to another question:

Could Videl beat Kid-Goku?

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#55356: Apr 5th 2017 at 9:43:44 PM

Actually, I'm not sure.

Post or pre Gohan Training?

Because post Gohan Training, I tink she'd give a decent, but not amazing, showing and still lose, pre-training she'd just be owned.

Also young or old King Piccolo?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55357: Apr 5th 2017 at 9:45:43 PM

Post training from Gohan, and whether you find it conceivable for either is the question.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#55358: Apr 5th 2017 at 9:48:34 PM

Nah, I don't think she'd win. I think she's tenacious enough and he's likely to play with her enough that she'd not look like a complete chump, but I can't see her winning until she's had a lot more training than she did in canon. She's only barely begun to grasp how to Ki Blast people and while she's good at Martial Arts, King Piccolo is likely way, way better.

More interesting, I think, would be Videl VS Master Roshi, because for all his flaws I can see him turning it into a learning exercise for her.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55359: Apr 5th 2017 at 9:52:26 PM

Mmmmm...with that in mind, how much further would you have liked/think that Videl could have gone with Gohan or anyone else training her?

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#55360: Apr 5th 2017 at 10:43:31 PM

She would probably become one of the strongest humans on the planet.

Was she already after Gohan trained her?

Hmm... I wonder if she would be psychogically held back from becoming stronger because she believed her father is so strong, and would not believe it possible to exceed him. But I kind of think that she got stronger than him after Gohan trained her. waii

Hercule is strong, but only by the standards of human fighters in DB. I think he is one of the stronger humans.

edited 5th Apr '17 10:44:00 PM by BearyScary

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#55361: Apr 5th 2017 at 11:05:53 PM

I think Videl may have started stronger than Hercule, though granted I don't know if that was a dub and/or anime thing or not.

edited 5th Apr '17 11:06:53 PM by KnownUnknown

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#55362: Apr 5th 2017 at 11:22:38 PM

How is this a problem of dubs, no one ever comments on it.

You can't even tell by feats, Videl breaks the neck of a power enhanced Spopovich...

And Satan literally only fights the guy who killed Boo's dog...except not even, because he got shot.

edited 5th Apr '17 11:23:04 PM by randomness4

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#55363: Apr 5th 2017 at 11:29:24 PM

Gohan says so at some point. Again, I don't know whether it was added in the anime or dub, but I wanted to point it out.

edited 5th Apr '17 11:29:36 PM by KnownUnknown

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#55364: Apr 5th 2017 at 11:33:21 PM

"Videl is stronger than her dad."

...based on what Gohan? You saw the man fight once and he got slapped into a mountain. You saw the girl fight once and she got curbstomped.

''What advanced scale of measurement are you using here, Gohan?"

"Well she can fly and her dad can't."

"Goku couldn't fly and he was on par with Tien as a child! Does that make Dende stronger than Mr. Satan?"

edited 5th Apr '17 11:34:22 PM by Soble

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#55365: Apr 5th 2017 at 11:37:49 PM

Yes, it does actually...because standards.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#55366: Apr 6th 2017 at 12:11:38 AM

Pretty sure Gohan saw her get into a bunch of fights in the Great Saiyaman stuff.

"B-but that's not canonnnn"

Actually, I think you'll find that the Great Saiyaman filler is the most canon.

edited 6th Apr '17 12:12:29 AM by Moth13

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55367: Apr 6th 2017 at 12:48:42 AM

[up][up][up] it's almost like they can somehow sense how powerful people are surprised

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#55368: Apr 6th 2017 at 1:10:56 AM

But they've never fought "eachotter"...

The viewers can't just trust Gohand's bias...

Might I say, it's an obvious bias...

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#55369: Apr 6th 2017 at 5:22:54 AM

What Saiga said.

Gohan may make lots of mistakes, but he shouldn't be screwing that one up.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55370: Apr 6th 2017 at 5:29:53 AM

[up][up] What bias? He didn't know anything about her when he made the first comment.

He first says she might be stronger than Satan when he feels her ki and watches her beat up some thugs. He didn't make any judgement before he saw her in action.

While doing the flight training with her, he then notes she is definitely stronger than Satan.

It's very, very clear.

edited 6th Apr '17 5:30:02 AM by Saiga

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#55371: Apr 6th 2017 at 6:31:22 AM

Yes, you say clear...

I get...

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#55372: Apr 6th 2017 at 8:48:45 AM

it's almost like they can somehow sense how powerful people are

Like how Roshi can tell Vegeta is stronger than Goku just from watching him fight Beerus for 30 seconds?

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#55373: Apr 6th 2017 at 8:50:50 AM

Jaco has special eyes. Roshi has special ki... sensing... organs. We don't question it.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#55374: Apr 6th 2017 at 10:39:16 AM

[up] So that's what the appendix is for.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#55375: Apr 6th 2017 at 3:37:31 PM

Going by the episode solicits, it seems 17 is stronger now.

edited 6th Apr '17 3:37:46 PM by Cortez


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