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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#55051: Apr 1st 2017 at 7:22:31 PM

[up]x4

Works for me.

In addition to that, Roshi is now SSJ 3 level.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#55052: Apr 1st 2017 at 7:25:48 PM

Filler Yamcha is stronger than Perfect Cell.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55053: Apr 1st 2017 at 7:27:05 PM

Filler Tien, Yamcha & Chiaotzu are stronger than the Ginyu Force.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55054: Apr 1st 2017 at 7:29:06 PM

and all of the humans would get defeated by a garden snail

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#55055: Apr 1st 2017 at 7:30:32 PM

well yeah i mean have you seen some snails they're dangerous out of control mother fuckers

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#55056: Apr 1st 2017 at 7:32:53 PM

And yet...

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#55057: Apr 1st 2017 at 7:34:24 PM

[up][up][up]

Don't ruin the joke man.

That being said:

Krillin can apparently slightly push back a Kamehameha from SSB Goku...

....Actually, you know what? Maybe you're right, cause even I think that's fucking stupid.

I hear by declare Saiga completely right, because Super did something really dumb, and this is from someone who likes Krillin and hates how Power Creep made him and the others unimportant in terms of battles.

edited 1st Apr '17 7:35:48 PM by HandsomeRob

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55058: Apr 1st 2017 at 7:35:38 PM

[up][up][up]Randomness can't help but feel you're exaggerating by a bit....

About them slugs...

edited 1st Apr '17 7:35:51 PM by randomness4

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#55059: Apr 1st 2017 at 7:48:01 PM

The feats just become so ridiculous that they're unimpressive. Large scale feats are only a big deal if there is actually some effort put into preserving their importance.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#55060: Apr 1st 2017 at 7:50:33 PM

[up]x3 He still lost the struggle, so calm the h down. 18 had to step in.

I also like that Krillin can control the Discs like Freeza could.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55061: Apr 1st 2017 at 7:55:31 PM

[up]You do understand Rob's deal right?

And, no, going "18 helped" doesn't make it better; she shouldn't have been able to do anything against it either.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55062: Apr 1st 2017 at 7:59:42 PM

So Future Trunks taking down Merged Zamasu was BS too right?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#55063: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:01:15 PM

[up][up][up]It was a struggle = instant fail

It shouldn't have been one to with...

Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#55064: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:04:08 PM

So Future Trunks taking down Merged Zamasu was BS too right?

It was an Ass Pull yes. Despite liking it, that's what it was. There was no build up to it, or foreshadowing of any kind which is a shame, because that was a pretty cool technique really.

Not that it mattered in the least since Zamasu just Lol!Noped the entire fucking population of Earth seconds later.

One Strip! One Strip!
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#55065: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:09:13 PM

[up]×4

That they hate fun and think the show should only be about Goku and no other character can improve? I disagree with that and i have no problem with Krillin improving.

And you must have not seenthe scene, it's not like she over powered Goku's blast.

edited 1st Apr '17 8:17:25 PM by Cortez

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#55066: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:18:27 PM

[up]

I love fun. I hate that Power Levels pushed other guys out. I've argued about it quite a bit.

We've argued that if Toriyama wanted to, he could come up with a way for the others to catch up. I just want it to be believable.

I do admit I haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but I'm gonna rectify that in a moment. I'll give my thoughts again once I do.

One Strip! One Strip!
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#55067: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:24:51 PM

I mean, Toriyama's the one who decided on the group who's being used for the tournament, not Toei; Toei at best is just coming up with ways to justify why the humans are even getting involved in the first place, since Toriyama probably didn't give them any when he handed them the outline. Toei at this point is just trying to make justifications for Toriyama's craziness, without having to radically alter the lineup for the anime, and make it that much more different than the manga, which is probably going to try and come up with justifications for them as well.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#55068: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:26:26 PM

No, Rob is right.

The entire cast except Vegeta and above could get together and all throw a Super Kamehameha at SSB Goku at the same time, and it would not do shit to push his own Kamehameha back.

Furthermore, Trunks doing anything at all against Goku Black is complete bullshit too.

edited 1st Apr '17 8:27:42 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55069: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:30:14 PM

I started disliking Future Trunks' victory as I realized that since SSR Black can overpower an SSB Goku & Vegeta that means Black can challenge Beerus at least a little. SSG can give Beerus a good fight & Blue is stronger than God so if Trunks killed Merged Zamasu who is most likely stronger than Black then that means Future Trunks can fight Beerus and make it a decent fight.

Future Trunks can challenge Beerus & he doesn't even have God Ki. Now that's BS especially coming from the guy who once nearly fucked himself going Broly once.

edited 1st Apr '17 8:30:28 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#55070: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:31:01 PM

I mean, even Manga!Trunks was shown being able to push Black back a little bit, just after shanking Zamasu in the gut as a Super Saiyan 2 (which might have been the manga's version of Rage honestly).

Or the time where Vegeta as a Super Saiyan 2 was able to kick Black's ass, even though Trunks was previously said to be weaker than Black's base form, even with his Enhanced Super Saiyan 2 form, which was equal to Goku's Super Saiyan 3 form.

[up] Are you forgetting the fact that Hit is able to rival Goku's Super Saiyan Blue form, without divine ki, or that Toppo at max power can rival Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken and be considered next in line as God of Destruction, without divine ki?

edited 1st Apr '17 8:32:59 PM by Ssj3Gojira

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55071: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:31:02 PM

That they hate fun and think the show should only be about Goku and no other character can improve? I disagree with that and i have no problem with Krillin improving.

Strawman. Calling bullshit on bullshit doesn't mean you hate fun or the characters. If you want the characters to improve, that should mean being done in reasonably and not just going "I'm strong enough to do this now, despite everything that says I it should kill me instantly".

edited 1st Apr '17 8:31:36 PM by LSBK

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#55072: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:33:47 PM

Hell, Jiren might honestly be equal to Beerus for all we know, and he doesn't have divine ki either.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#55073: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:35:25 PM

That was a pretty epic shot of him at the of the preview though.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#55074: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:37:39 PM

I mean, saying "something else like this happened in Super" doesn't mean much, because a lot of what Super does, frankly doesn't make sense. It just does things to look cool.

edited 1st Apr '17 8:50:30 PM by LSBK

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#55075: Apr 1st 2017 at 8:44:44 PM

Saying "something else like this happened in Super" kind of defeats your argument when the opposing point is "Super is playing incredibly fast and loose with powerlevels with no rhyme or reason".

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

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