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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#54576: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:15:03 PM

It also referred to Z as having a series of sagas that are "only rivaled by such epics as Star Wars and Lord of the Rings in size and scope."

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#54577: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:16:19 PM

Wow.

I like Dragon Ball as much as the next guy, but let's not blow things out of proportion.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#54578: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:19:08 PM

I don't know. Dragon Ball definitely has the same staying power as those two, if not more so.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#54579: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:19:47 PM

Thing is, true, Star Wars is perhaps more popular in terms of popcultural osmosis than Dragon Ball... but that's only because it's bigger in the USA and most of the pop culture of the western world originates in the USA, when it comes to the internet.

Outside the internet, though... I think that, while more people are aware of Star Wars than there are aware of Dragon Ball, more people have actually seen at least some Dragon Ball than they've seen Star Wars.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#54580: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:20:58 PM

Well considering this franchise is over 30 years old and is still going on pretty strong, its not necessarily that inaccurate.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#54581: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:22:21 PM

I mean, Star Wars had to deal with the prequel trilogy existing....which granted, might be Star Wars' equivalent to GT in terms of how divided the fanbase is on them (leaning mostly towards hate though).

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#54582: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:28:50 PM

Again, I think the problem lies in that you're looking at only one piece of the puzzle. I've noticed that the GT thing is, again, mostly a USA thing.

Yes, it didn't do amazing all over the world like the original Dragon Ball did, but outside the USA, its Base Breaker nature is... well, I can tell you that at least in Argentina I don't see anywhere near the amount of people calling for Fanon Discontinuity and piling hate on it that I see from USA fans.

I still blame this on the rap, by the by.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#54583: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:30:45 PM

Well one, the rap is awesome, two, there's a full version of that rap, and three, I've said before I once watched all of GT as a kid, back when it was on TV, on a Japanese channel (when those still existed) in the original dub; I think I've already explained how much I like GT.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54584: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:32:00 PM

It also referred to Z as having a series of sagas that are "only rivaled by such epics as Star Wars and Lord of the Rings in size and scope."

When phrased like that I could see the point. At least I wouldn't call it inaccurate. Scope wise Dragon Ball is most definitely capable of matching Star Wars and Lord of the Rings.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#54585: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:32:31 PM

The actual rapping is hit or miss but I still think the music, especially the wailing is pretty good.

Huh I guess you can compare Super to The Force Awakens kinda.

[up] Funny thing is the scope is kinda small. I mean what brought down Frieza who is a space emperor like Sideous & his army was just 5 warriors.

edited 24th Mar '17 9:33:39 PM by slimcoder

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#54586: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:33:07 PM

What does that make Rouge One then?

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#54588: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:35:07 PM

Ok there both origin stories so I can kinda see the comparison.

[down] That's not an origin story.

edited 24th Mar '17 9:37:06 PM by slimcoder

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#54589: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:35:40 PM

Not Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!!?

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54590: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:38:05 PM

That's more like the Clone Wars. A bridge between major installments.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#54591: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:38:35 PM

Which Clone Wars though?

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54592: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:39:48 PM

Either one works since they're the same thing.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#54593: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:43:49 PM

@Gojira

When did your personal opinion of GT become anything I discussed?

I also didn't say anything about the Rap's quality. I just said I blamed it for GT's poor reception in the USA.

And that you cannot deny - because GT is a Base Breaker in the USA, with a far bigger hatedom than fandom. Or far more vocal hatedom anyway. Either works.

edited 24th Mar '17 9:44:03 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#54594: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:44:03 PM

Funny thing to think about is that Star Wars is more successful in passing the torch than Dragon Ball ever did.

I mean if TFA was more like Super then Luke & the main trio would be the main characters again at the expense of whoever's left & new.

edited 25th Mar '17 3:43:08 AM by slimcoder

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#54595: Mar 25th 2017 at 3:40:09 AM

Indeed. Dragon Ball does have trouble passing on the torch both Doylist and Watsonian reasons. The Doylist reason being that the kids aren't really to interested in fighting for its own sake or even endless self improvement. The Watsonian reason being that Goku is essentially Dragon Ball's darling that getting rid of him or retiring him would be ludicrous.and he is simply too popular to get rid off. Not mention Toriyama doesn't feel that Gohan, Goten, Kid Trunks, Pan and Uub cannot carry on the series themselves. If Super were more like The Force Awakens, we could see a new main character take over the spot but it isn't gonna happen anytime soon.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#54596: Mar 25th 2017 at 5:08:12 AM

You got that reversed. Watson is the in-universe reason, IE, the kids don't care about fighting. The Doylist is the out-of-universe reason, IE, the kids don't care about Goku's kids.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#54597: Mar 25th 2017 at 7:53:00 AM

What?

Are the kids unpopular?

I know Toriyama himself is convinced only Goku can ever be the hero and that others are unsuited to that task, but I never got the impression no one cared about Gohan when he was the main character.

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DocJamore Since: Jul, 2014
#54598: Mar 25th 2017 at 7:58:19 AM

I was under the impression that Gohan won a popularity poll taken after the cell games.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#54599: Mar 25th 2017 at 8:12:03 AM

I'm just giving an example.

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#54600: Mar 25th 2017 at 8:28:41 AM

[up] Is that so? I stand corrected then. The kids aren't really interested in fighting or fighting strong opponents as Goku is and Goku himself is the most popular character to kids.

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