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#54526: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:18:32 AM

Dragon Ball Minus may be flawed, but Kid Raditz was always a bright spot in that comic for me. I don't know why I have a soft spot for an asshole like Raditz, maybe is that What if story mode in Budokai tenkaichi 2.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
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#54527: Mar 24th 2017 at 9:47:38 AM

Resurrection R.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#54529: Mar 24th 2017 at 1:42:45 PM

I should note, that Budokai Tenkaichi also had a lot of what-ifs. Like Frieza winning and going on to beat Cooler, Cell winning and going on to beat Super 17 (somehow), Buu winning and going on to beat Janemba, a tournament story involving a time travelling Kid Goku, and even a story where a bunch of the villains team up to kill the Z-Fighters, and basically betray each other at the end and have a giant battle royale that basically destroys all life on Earth. That last one is really weird, since it had a lot of the villains batting outside their weight classes; barring Legendary Super Saiyan Broly beating Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta, you got Super Bojack killing Ultimate Gohan, Mecha Frieza beating Super Saiyan 3 Goku, Cooler beating down fucking Super Gogeta, and either Super Baby 2 or Super 17 (or both), killing Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta.

edited 24th Mar '17 1:43:08 PM by Ssj3Gojira

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Lampodigenio Insert cool sentence here from Somewhere in Western Europe Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#54530: Mar 24th 2017 at 1:45:12 PM

Oh, the memories. I don't know what steroids Cooler used in that fight, but where can I find some?

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#54531: Mar 24th 2017 at 1:46:01 PM

I mean, Trunks' story in that also had him fight Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta in a tournament after the future had been mostly repaired, and won using only Super Saiyan.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#54532: Mar 24th 2017 at 1:48:28 PM

Yeah, but none of those are half as good as when Tenkaichi 3 told the story of Devilman using his Devilmite Beam to effortlessly kill Mecha Frieza and King Cold, essentially taking the place of Trunks.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#54533: Mar 24th 2017 at 1:51:10 PM

Wow all that sounds epic as fuck.

[up] Shit I think I remember that.

Not sure which game this is from but I recall two missions where you control Vegito & Gogeta & have them face off against each other. After the fight they realize their both stuck forever fused but they decided to live their lives anyway with them even going to Bulma & Chi-chi as their new husbands. Which fusion did Bulma & Chi-chi each get?

edited 24th Mar '17 1:51:40 PM by slimcoder

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#54534: Mar 24th 2017 at 1:51:54 PM

Imagine an anime movie based on those stories. The fan's rage would be hilarious.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#54535: Mar 24th 2017 at 1:55:41 PM

[up][up]

How could Gogeta possible stay fused forever.

Then again, now we know Vegito can't do the same thing.

One Strip! One Strip!
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#54536: Mar 24th 2017 at 1:56:33 PM

Hell, you have Zarbon betraying Frieza to get eternal beauty, calling Cooler over to Namek so that him and Frieza can duke it out, and Zarbon teaming up with Goku to face Frieza, before all the Namekians, Krillin, Gohan, Bulma, and Goku get wished back to Earth.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
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#54537: Mar 24th 2017 at 2:15:13 PM

Cool What-If story: Demon King Piccolo managing to kill all the heroes and essentially rule the Earth with a Iron Fist that does nothing but smash things all day, and then encountering Raditz when he lands on Earth looking for the now dead Goku.

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HITTING HELPY!!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#54538: Mar 24th 2017 at 2:18:05 PM

[up][up][up] Well it is a what-if, I mean I think you should be questioning how Vegito & Gogeta are facing off in the first place.

[up] That be fun actually.

Ya know Xenoverse doesn't advantage of much of this stuff as it should.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#54539: Mar 24th 2017 at 2:21:25 PM

That's what I've been saying about Xenoverse 2. They had time. They had the engine. They had the feedback. They done fucked it up.

I don't even care if there is a 'story' at all. Just have some sort of excuse plot, and have the game be all about What If? scenarios.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#54540: Mar 24th 2017 at 2:37:11 PM

Just localize Heroes.

This song needs more love.
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#54541: Mar 24th 2017 at 2:37:32 PM

Honestly, they could do tiny what-if DLC bits to string the game along until Xenoverse 3 comes out. Just tiny scenarios that unlock a thing they could easily tweak on their side in little time.

Towa throws an artificial moon during the Raditz fight.
This one would be the hardest since they don't actually have models for Oozaru Raditz or Gohan.

Towa boosts Gohan to Super Saiyan during the Raditz fight.
Unlocks SSJ Toddler Gohan

Towa saves Raditz after getting hit with the Special Beam Cannon.
Unlocks Raditz (hole in chest)

Towa boosts Gohan to Super Saiyan before Krillin dies on Namek.
Unlocks SSJ Gohan (Namek)

Towa boosts Future!Gohan to Super Saiyan 3 while fighting 17 and 18 the last time.
Unlocks SSJ 3 Future Gohan

Tons of stuff you could do. They already have presets for all of this stuff. A baseline of animation and it sells.

edited 24th Mar '17 2:38:58 PM by Zeromaeus

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#54542: Mar 24th 2017 at 2:39:40 PM

They could've done a great deal many things that could've helped the game be more fun.

Like, for instance, fights in which for once we don't fight on the side of the good guys.

Budokai Tenkaichi 3 let us play the Bad Guy when they were supposed to win, sometimes, I think, so why not this game?

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#54543: Mar 24th 2017 at 2:42:36 PM

Fuck man, Budokai Tenkaichi 3 had a lot of tiny what-ifs you could get from every battle, just on the basis of the amount of characters you could play as in each scenario.

Like, I remember facing Dabura after beating down Majin Vegeta quickly as SSJ 2 Goku. Or not using the Final Explosion against Majin Buu and facing Babidi. OR BEATING NAPPA WITH CHAOZU.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#54544: Mar 24th 2017 at 2:44:47 PM

I mean as good as it is it gets tiring constantly retreading battles especially with the fact your not really doing anything besides providing backup & in some cases stalling for the actual heroes to finish the boss.

Xenoverse did does some good stuff though. The climaxes of each arc are pretty great like how you team up with Goku to battle both Frieza & Cooler, go up against an army of Metal Cooler's during the Cell Games, going toe to toe with Broly during Goku's battle with Majin Vegeta & pacifying Beerus' rampage due to the Kai's screw up with Whis.

There are some genuinely good stuff there.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#54545: Mar 24th 2017 at 2:46:44 PM

I just said that the first Budokai Tenkaichi had a story segment where the villains teamed up to kill the Z Fighters.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#54546: Mar 24th 2017 at 3:01:45 PM

Poor Dabura, still not in Xenoverse.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#54547: Mar 24th 2017 at 3:06:10 PM

I really do hope Dabura gets to shine in Xenoverse 3. They could bring the demon race over from Heroes and have him at the helm of it.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#54548: Mar 24th 2017 at 3:10:44 PM

I'm surprised Towa is his sister. Like seriously are they really related?

Also I would like a more Super/Kid build for the male Majin race.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#54549: Mar 24th 2017 at 3:23:00 PM

Honestly, they should just have fat/tall/kid options for both genders.

Ideally, I'd want Human, Saiyan, Namekian, Freeza, Buu, Android, Kai and Demon.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#54550: Mar 24th 2017 at 3:31:30 PM

Towa looks like a kai more than she looks like Dabura.

But seriously though, Xenoverse really should start stealing from Heroes. Alternate forms, mostly, that would go with the What If? Scenarios that they should be using.

Because in all seriousness, the Xenoverse series is probably the biggest amount of Wasted Potential Dragon Ball has ever seen.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

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