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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#54376: Mar 18th 2017 at 10:47:44 PM

I mean, Luthor has been part of the Justice League for years now.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#54377: Mar 18th 2017 at 10:52:43 PM

And has been the leader of the Legion of Doom.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#54378: Mar 18th 2017 at 10:57:40 PM

The idea of Cell obtaining abilities like Guldo's Time freeze and perfecting it into basically The World would be effing terrifying.

Not sure he would've been able to build that in.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#54380: Mar 18th 2017 at 11:02:27 PM

Luthor did pretty well as a Leaguer as well as Captain Cold for his short period on the team.

edited 18th Mar '17 11:02:39 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#54381: Mar 18th 2017 at 11:10:04 PM

[up][up][up]None of the moves Cell had should have been built into him. Nothing about him makes sense.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#54382: Mar 18th 2017 at 11:11:40 PM

If Guldo's ability is actually a racial trait, though, he could potentially have it. Or if it's a mutation that he developed.

That stuff makes at least some degree of sense when you account for lego genetics.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#54383: Mar 19th 2017 at 3:13:03 AM

Today's episode was pretty damn fun, really liked the fight. Also, Jiren the Gray? Does this mean the well-known sci-fi Gray Aliens are now a canon species in Dragon Ball?

Also also, for some reason this episode gave me a crazy idea on how this saga might end...

We all know Goku's getting a new form, but what if this new form has too much power to control and it ends up being like an Oozaru situation? Like, after transforming, Goku starts becoming blind with power and accidentally starts attacking his teammates or the spectators. What if he becomes powerful enough to injure some of the onlooking GOD's through one of his stray ki blasts?

What if he accidentally kills a friend or family member, or even one of the Zeno's through his blind power? What if the Grand Priest planned for such a situation to happen the whole time for his own personal gains...

I know, fucking weird and crazy as hell thought, but it's too crazy NOT to post. tongue

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#54384: Mar 19th 2017 at 6:32:13 AM

Re:Goku being a 'villain'

I know now that it isn't Goku's fault for the circumstances of the tournament but Goku seems a little to 'fight happy' that he makes no effort to fight these accusations if it makes his opponent fight harder. Recently, I am becoming more disillusioned with Goku and while I know he isn't a white knight, I expected him to be a little wiser than how he is portrayed in Super. Goku was never a hero but a strong guy who likes fighting who heroics were accidents but even then he wasn't completely selfish as his actions in Red Ribbon arc has shown. It also seems that his selfishness or recklessness is always excused as being that is just who he is or his Saiyan cells influencing him. I don't know it feels like I am missing something as he rarely seems to get called in universe but it doesn't matter as it all seems to workout anyway. The Goku that I thought I knew never existed or maybe I am taking Dragon Ball too seriously.

edited 19th Mar '17 6:33:27 AM by GAP

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UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#54385: Mar 19th 2017 at 6:56:18 AM

[up][up]I'd be surprised if THAT actually happened. If the Grand Priest planned it out that way, I would not be surprised.

Also: wild mass guessHit's race is actually the U6 counterpart to Guldo's. While Guldo's race already had psychic powers, Guldo was a prodigy among them as he used very little effort to use a more advanced version of it, with the Time Freeze ability being what allowed him into the Ginyu Force, but they are physically weak and have a life span of a couple of decades at most. Hit's race, however, are very long live beings who rely entirely on physical prowess, kinda like space elves, with Hit being one of the few, it not the first, to exhibit actual superpowers with his Time Manipulation, and despite the effect being minimal at first, extended his own lifespan into the low thousands.

[up]I think Super is one long, extended What You Are in the Dark session for Goku as a whole. The original series was the typical coming of age tale with Goku wandering the world and being trained by both martial arts masters and life in general, battling villains only when they got in his way until Demon King Piccolo showed up. In Z showed the Earth being consistently attacked directly or potentially by world ending villains and Goku was forced to become heroic to pick up the slack for the friends he left behind in terms of power levels. Super goes back to the same casualness as the original series, but now Goku has a family of three to support, including a job as a farmer, while all of his friends essentially moved on with their lives, yet Goku himself has gotten to the point where his power surpasses GODS, and aside from Frieza the only actual threats to the Earth is a God of Destruction that is literally a house cat and a omnicidal Supreme Kai.

Super shows that Happily Ever After for Goku is extremely boring, and mentally and subconsciously he is severely chaffing......

edited 19th Mar '17 7:07:22 AM by UdtheImp

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HITTING HELPY!!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#54386: Mar 19th 2017 at 7:00:28 AM

Hit's move isn't a Time Freeze, it's a Time Skip, there is a difference.

UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#54387: Mar 19th 2017 at 7:08:21 AM

[up]I know there's a difference, I meant to say Time Manipulation in General.

DAMMIT MARK, STOP HITTING HELPY!!
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54388: Mar 19th 2017 at 8:11:47 AM

What's interesting in this lastest Super manga chapter, Goku talks as if Vegeta is the only one between them who can toggle between Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue like he's doing.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#54389: Mar 19th 2017 at 8:56:42 AM

It's to stroke his ego, poor thing has been pummeled lately.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#54390: Mar 19th 2017 at 9:59:50 AM

Next fight Goku will be using it as well, most likely, or at least will be able to do so

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#54391: Mar 19th 2017 at 11:45:49 AM

t's pretty cool how the Instant Kamehameha is still one of Goku's best techniques; the embodiment of Simple, yet Awesome.

But the fight was pretty cool, even if inclusive. Well this obviously means Goku's gonna bust out his new move against Jiren.

I guess Beerus has officially lost all reverence as a god considering nobody from Universe 7 seems to respect the position lol.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#54392: Mar 19th 2017 at 12:19:32 PM

The Instant Kamehameha fixes one of the problems of the Kamehameha, namely, actually hitting someone with it.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#54393: Mar 19th 2017 at 12:21:32 PM

Well usually it's used as a finishing move in either a beam struggle or the opponent just tanks it.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#54394: Mar 19th 2017 at 1:04:14 PM

@IANCE: Now imagine if Krillin or 18 learn Instant Transmission and decide to combine it with the Destructo Disc.

Then again, their enemies probably reached the point where the Destructo Disc doesn't do much, even if that scene with Cell's neck was filler.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#54395: Mar 19th 2017 at 1:06:03 PM

I've read the latest manga chapter. Oh god, what a mess. It can't even stay consistent with the rules it established. Like, the weakness of SSB in the manga is that it's activation takes a lot of power, so using it more than once in succession makes it way weaker. Now Vegeta brilliant strategy is to go in and out of Blue every time he attacks. To conserve energy. What?

And, really, I dunno the manga just lacks any kind of omph compared to anime. Kinda shame, really.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54397: Mar 19th 2017 at 1:12:27 PM

[up][up]There's not an inherent contradiction for the first part. It's a form that doesn't leak once the heavy start up is performed.

For the second part, what's being mastered is the transition. If vegeta tried using pure ssb it'd be his 10% vs Black's 10% and Vegeta would lose. If he fought with only ssg he'd just be outpowered. He's not allowing ssb to tax him by never fully transforming. And the reason for ssg over base or ssj is presumably because those forms are too slow to keep up with Black's movements. He needs some level of power to be able to react to Rosè.

edited 19th Mar '17 1:13:01 PM by VeryMelon

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#54398: Mar 19th 2017 at 1:35:00 PM

But he shouldn't be able to overpower Black if his SSB is the equivalent to his SSR in that case.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54399: Mar 19th 2017 at 1:49:50 PM

I just said Black was ten times weaker right now.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#54400: Mar 19th 2017 at 1:53:54 PM

@GAP

It also seems that his selfishness or recklessness is always excused as being that is just who he is or his Saiyan cells influencing him.

Yeah, even Vegeta knows when it's appropriate to fight and when not to....are we absolutely certain that Goku has fully recovered from his head injury? Childhood head trauma does last long into your adult years....


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