If canon is used in the sense of continuities (which isn't entirely accurate - if something is no longer currently accepted as part of the series' continuity, it is no longer canon, but is still in continuity with itself), the various ones are thus:
- The current anime one: the DB/Z anime including filler and additions, but probably minus the movies, and now Super.
- The current manga one: the DB/Z manga, and now the Super manga.
- GT
- The various movies are their own little pockets of continuity, though several of them reference each other.
edited 14th Mar '17 12:06:01 PM by KnownUnknown
They allow the heroes to stand on even ground with the new villains though yeah its not much of a boost in some cases.
Hell Frieza's Golden mode was stronger than Goku's Blue while Goku killed Super 17 & Omega Shenron in his base form after running out of power though 18 helped a lot in the formers case.
At least 4 isn't just a regular Super Saiyan with blue hair dye though.
edited 14th Mar '17 12:37:39 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Blue had been kinda underwhelming since the start when it was actually weaker than Freeza Golden form, and wasn't all that amazing ever since.
At least 4 was amazing when first introduced.
And if you look back at God (which was only good enough to kinda sorta keep up with not serious Beerus for a while) and 3 (which was only good enough to keep up with Buu's weaker forms) the last time a Super Sayian form was truly overwhelming was Super Sayian 2.
Toriyama really wrote himself into a corner when Vegeta casually destroyed a planet like it was nothing right in his introduction and then set up Freeza as the most powerful alien being in the universe, only for the whole thing to become so popular that he would never be allowed to end the series until he dies.
It's so weird when they pretend like Whis actually has anything to critique about Goku's and Vegeta's technique or anything. Like. Dude. They're long past the point where they can work on their stance or their mentality or whatever. All they've been doing for the past decades is just run around and punch stuff until their Power Level(tm) goes up.
edited 14th Mar '17 1:19:48 PM by Fawriel
The editor kept telling him to change antagonists.
Though that kinda worked in all our favors as the Android Saga would never have been that epic if it was just Dr. Gero & 19.
The power creep did become a serious issue though.
edited 14th Mar '17 1:30:28 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Because it kind of was. The editor thought Androids 19 and 20 looked stupid, and told Toriyama to write new villains. Then he thought 17 and 18 were underwhelming and not scary enough, so he told Toriyama to write new villains again.
Then we got Cell... which honestly worked out all right in the end.
And I do agree: 19 and 20 were pretty dumb. Sometimes Executive Meddling pushes things in a positive direction.
edited 14th Mar '17 2:34:57 PM by DarkHunter
@fawriel: Vegeta destroying a planet casually in the Saiyan saga was filler only (And even then, the Arlian world was very small) He had to charge up a Galic gun in the manga to be able to destroy earth.
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Well that's from a canceled online game so not sure if that counts, heh.
Still I saw & its pretty ugly. Some weird creepy centaur/spider mix & Cell had this perpetually grumpy old-man expression. Its just ugly & way too bulky.
edited 14th Mar '17 2:43:45 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
x5 The question was still legit, despite the names used...
I like to think that the conversation with the editor went like this:
Toriyama: Here are my villains.
Editor: Lame!
Toriyama: Well how about these new ones?
Editor: Lamer!
Toriyama: Well fuck you I'm going with a bug monster!
I mean, Cell-X came back as a Super Mode for Perfect Cell in Super Dragon Ball Heroes. Thinking back, Frieza's the only one of the Dark Dragon Ball villains who didn't get a new form; Cell got Cell-X, Pure Buu got Demon God Pure Buu, and even Turles is apparently getting a new form if the end of the CGI trailer is anything to go by. They could have at least given Frieza a Super Form like Cooler's, or done something like Super Golden Frieza.
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