Fuck they lost. I guess it makes some sense but still.
Huh, so which is cooler, SSB Vegito or SS 4 Gogeta?
edited 13th Mar '17 7:57:32 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."I mean, Vegito only really won because he could stack the Kaio-ken on top of Super Saiyan Blue, and barring Death Battle and one video game, we have no indication that Kaio-ken can be stacked on top of Super Saiyan 4 as well.
Granted, considering what both Super Saiyan Blue and the Final Kamehameha did to Vegito's one hour time limit, Vegito's use of both Kaio-ken and Kaio-ken x10 is...iffy at best.
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!Well it's the same for SS 4 Gogeta right.
Both powers burn through Fusion at a ridiculous rate.
I mean, I'm not sure if I really buy SS 4 Dance fusion lasting against SSB Earring fusion (since, despite the time retcon, it is supposed to be more stable).
Then again, both golden Frieza and Hit prove that it's possible to challenge Blue, so it's not so crazy. It's simply a question of whether 4 is on that level.
One Strip! One Strip!I'm not sure I'd buy them being equally matched until kaioken comes into play, even if we assume Super Saiyan Four somehow gives a similar boost as Super Saiyan Blue, unlocking Super Saiyan God, increases the base form level to ridiculous heights. So DBS Vegetto would have a much higher base rating then DBGT Gogeta before their respective super modes even come into play.
Admittedly, I'm far from an expert on dragonball, so maybe GT engaged in ridiculous power escalation beyond what Super has been doing.
Not to say the animation wasn't fun. Cause it was. I just don't think they would have needed kaioken at all to win.
Click Click Boom BoomYeah the Gods power-scaling kinda fucked everything up.
At the end of GT Omega Shenron at his maximum power was the strongest being in existence & SS 4 Gogeta made a complete clown of him. So depending on how strong Shenron compared to say Zamasu you might be able to gauge SS 4 Gogeta. Fusion gives you a massive boost in power after all, Gotenks is stronger than Super Buu while Trunks & Goten combined are infinitely weaker.
Ya know now that I think about it, if Blue is the Super Saiyan of God base form then shouldn't it have an evolutionary line leading up to 2 & 3?
I wonder if someone made art of SS 4 B.
edited 13th Mar '17 8:26:08 PM by slimcoder
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."I mean, it was also shown in GT that you could make Super Saiyan 4 capable of much greater amounts of strength if several Saiyans donated power to the user; a combination of that and Dragon Fist actually let Goku blow up Omega Shenron on his own, and it would have killed him if it wasn't for him gaining regenerative abilities thanks to the powers he got from Rage Shenron. Plus, we still don't know what was the deal with the altered colors of Gogeta's Super Saiyan 4 state, so explanation-wise that could range from just Fusion messing with the colors to them somehow gaining something like an "Ascended" Super Saiyan 4 state.
edited 13th Mar '17 8:41:36 PM by Ssj3Gojira
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!Thas' bollocks.
SSJ 4 Gogeta 'shudda won dat no contest.
He looks cooler.
edited 13th Mar '17 9:04:55 PM by Soble
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Oh wow that is weird then. Yeah where the hell is it from?
Who defeated Copy-Vegeta? Cause I saw a clip where he took down SS 3 Gotenks.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Managed to track down the exact quote:
So, bit of an ambiguous statement, but either way it suggests that Super Vegetto is somewhere around Super Sayian 4. That was Buu saga Vegetto, and Zamasu arc one should be incomparably stronger.
... *casually links the old Dragonball intro in German*
Oh gods, the show was so cute and silly back then. What happened to that
... so GT is still supposed to be canon, huh? I was going to ask how ridiculous the power levels would have to be at that point if it comes after Super, but I guess that question has already been answered. Or proven unanswerable, as it were.

So God Ki > SSJ 4?
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.