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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#53926: Mar 10th 2017 at 1:40:43 PM

There is a difference between being evil & being an antagonist.

He prolly realizes that survival trumps morality in this case sadly enouh.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#53927: Mar 10th 2017 at 1:41:32 PM

So, we have all the names of all the Hakaioshin, but we still need the names of the Kaioshin of Universes 2, 8, 11, and 12, and we need the names of the Angels of Universes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10, and 12.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#53928: Mar 10th 2017 at 1:50:55 PM

That's a lot of characters....

I can only assume some of these guys won't get focused on at all.

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#53929: Mar 10th 2017 at 2:24:16 PM

I know powerlevels are the LTD of Dragon Ball but.....

"Mai waifu."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#53930: Mar 10th 2017 at 2:41:45 PM

We already have the name for the Universe 9 Angel.

edited 10th Mar '17 2:42:38 PM by Cortez

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#53931: Mar 10th 2017 at 3:18:41 PM

[up]Where? Also, we don't know the name of Universe 6's Kaioshin, forgot about him, since he was introduced a while ago.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53932: Mar 10th 2017 at 4:21:53 PM

A video about what Master Roshi could do to be useful to the team:

I think most of those have some traction accept for Drunken Fist (at the speed these guys will be moving, Roshi will be lucky to even graze them) and the Thundershock (Too much brute force, and he lacks it in this fight).

The Mafuuba's value depends on if he can really use it in that manner, but it will get more mileage from it's other users (Piccolo and Tien can create clones of themselves and Mafuuba the hell out of as many people as possible).

There's also the possibility that Roshi knows other techniques he never used against anyone in the series. He's been around for a while, so he has to have learned a few tricks.

edited 10th Mar '17 4:22:09 PM by HandsomeRob

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#53933: Mar 10th 2017 at 4:38:00 PM

Roshi found God Ki drugs, now he's on par with everyone there.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#53935: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:18:23 PM

Good thing they didn't bring Yamcha for the ride.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#53936: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:22:34 PM

Man, why you gotta bring me down like that?

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#53937: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:26:17 PM

Toei will find a way to make it happen even if it is inconsistent with their own rules. Then again, Super seems to emphasize skill over power so I could be wrong.

[up] Edit: But everyone knows that Yamcha only exists to show ho badass a character is despite the fact that it got redundant in Dragon ball and it is obvious that Yamcha is Toriyama's whipping boy. Yamcha got beat by a strong fighter?! Omigosh, that fighter must be badass.tongue

edited 10th Mar '17 5:31:12 PM by GAP

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53938: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:35:30 PM

Pretty much.

Toriyama has already made it clear he doesn't think Yamcha can hack it.

That's why he was left out of the mass Frieza Goon battle (which was the best chance to show him actually doing well in a fight, even if against Mooks).

So there's really nothing more to say on the matter. Yamcha isn't going to fight, and the Toriyama doesn't want him to fight.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#53939: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:41:08 PM

I'm fairly sure Yamcha being left out was more because of fanservice. Ten and Roshi are both more popular and taken more seriously than Yamcha, plus Roshi has some serious surprise fanserive going for him due to how unexpected his return is.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#53940: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:42:49 PM

Yes, we've been over that. If we're being serious Trunks and Goten make more sense but that's not what they're going for here.

Honestly, I don't get still bemoaning it.

edited 10th Mar '17 5:46:37 PM by LSBK

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53941: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:45:09 PM

[up][up]

That I can buy.

I mean, Yamcha is a Memetic Loser to both Japanese and American fandoms, so it makes more sense to go with popular characters.

Plus I'm convinced that Toriyama would write him as being taken out first to show how serious the situation is, because just like Digimon killing Leomon, it's something that happens so often that Toriyama probably feels like he has to do it.

That last one is my pure personal opinion however, and has zero evidence.

[up] Actually, not using Trunks and Goten is smart. They are not reliable, to say nothing of their strongest form being limited by a time limit (that shortens the more power they use).

I don't have enough faith that SS 3 Gotenks wouldn't run out of power and de-fuse at a crucial moment.

edited 10th Mar '17 5:46:39 PM by HandsomeRob

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#53942: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:52:57 PM

They emphasized that since it's a battle royal teamwork is going to be important, and that is absolutely not Goten and Trunk's strong suit.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#53943: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:55:53 PM

Goten and Trunks are dumb, and they've proven they're incredibly unreliable when they fucked up against Buu and lost twice because of it.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#53944: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:56:17 PM

Neither is Buu funnily enough but as shown in his fight with Basil his invincibility trumps his unreliability.

Though Goku better step up as a team player.

edited 10th Mar '17 5:56:41 PM by slimcoder

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#53945: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:59:35 PM

[up][up]Said as if most of these people are particularly reliable?

[up][up][up]Goten and Trunks at least have experience working with each other, and probably would work well wit their dads, Gohan, and Piccolo.

Compare to Tien, who is probably easily the least group socialized of them all.

edited 10th Mar '17 6:01:43 PM by LSBK

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53946: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:00:59 PM

The lack of team work is gonna be a massive issue.

Then again, attempts to act as a team has either fail due to the enemy being way too strong, or someone one their side deliberately refusing help when it actually might make a difference.

It might take a while for the others to get used to the idea of someone actually wanting help and that they might actually be able to help.

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Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#53947: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:10:02 PM

17 would definitely be the hardest to get, because unlike 18, 17's significant other isn't going with him, and he has to take off from his job.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#53948: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:14:56 PM

@LSBK

It's a matter of perspective. At least Tien won't accidentally fuck you over.

[up]He ranged the shit out of that park so much it can range itself while he's gone.

edited 10th Mar '17 6:15:20 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#53949: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:17:45 PM

17's prolly a God already cause of all the time spent again ranging the shit outta that park. tongue

Ya know due to the tournament starting less than 2 days the heroes really don't have much time to plan shit. I hope Buu & Goku don't actually screw them over once the tournament starts.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#53950: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:17:46 PM

...An accidental fuck over is, by definition, accidental. There's no guarantees either way with that, and with that mind set, at least go with the guys who are much harder to knock out and more likely to be able to knock out others.

Edit: Of course, this is all without assuming wonky power-scaling to somehow make him and Roshi stronger than the boys despite no indication of that.

edited 10th Mar '17 6:19:59 PM by LSBK


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