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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#53651: Mar 5th 2017 at 1:50:38 PM

And then Goku will remind him, because he's an idiot. That's not supposed to be good or bad, it just seems like something Super would have him do.

edited 5th Mar '17 1:51:00 PM by LSBK

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#53652: Mar 5th 2017 at 1:54:58 PM

But that's not something that makes even the slightest bit of sense. Why would Goku remind him of blowing up the universes? What Goku wants is a better fight, why would he remind Zenou about blowing up the universes after it's gotten him the fight he wanted?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#53653: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:03:31 PM

I didn't mean intentionally, they'd just have him do it absentmindedly or something.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#53654: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:08:44 PM

So I watching the Super Dub via my brother (who's been waiting until said dub to watch), and we just finished episode 9.

Oh man, Shenron freaking out at Beerus is hilarious in this version. I gotta say, they've really been on point. I guess when you've done the characters as long as these guys have, you sorta perfect it after a while.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#53655: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:13:04 PM

@LSBK

Goku's more likely to forget it himself than be the one who reminds Zenou of it.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#53656: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:23:27 PM

Grand Priest could remind Zeno

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#53657: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:29:55 PM

Those comments from Toriyama that Mad Skillz posted made me wonder about something; we've all heard about the dub "turning Goku into Superman" but I doubt he was specifically complaining about the English dub, so how did the anime, in general, "righteous up" Goku?

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#53658: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:40:50 PM

Filler scenes where Goku helps out random people for no reason.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#53659: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:42:49 PM

Wasn't there a whole sequence where he helps a fox guy for some reason that I can't recall? That's one of them.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#53660: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:51:43 PM

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Good question.

Also, I've been thinking about things.

1) According to the Fridge Brilliance page for Dragonball, Toriyama was apparently directly involved with the creation of the anime's filler. Now, we do know he suggested the Yamcha baseball thing, and he's dealt with character designs for anime only character as well. I'm wondering if he had more of a hand in some of the filler that we all so easily treat as non canon then we realize.

Now I sit and wait to be told that no, it's just filler and my theory is stupid.tongue

2) Second, I just had some massive Fridge Brilliance about the Red Ribbon Army arc as a whole. It's state (I think by Bulma, but I don't fully re-call so if someone can remember, I"d appreciate it) that the World Government was completely helpless against them. They already have soldiers and bases all around the world, incredibly powerful weapons like Sergeant Metallic (thanks Gero!) and strong fighters either work for them (Blue and his crazy psychic powers) or can be hired by them (Tao, and I bet Tenshihan / Tien would have reached that point if things had been different).

So basically, Red Ribbon rules, everyone else drools...which is when you have to ask ''why do they even need the Dragonballs? From the sounds of things, they already rule the world. And that's it: the very nature of the army was a massive clue to Red's real wish. It was right there staring us in the face the whole time, and we didn't see it.

edited 5th Mar '17 2:51:59 PM by HandsomeRob

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#53661: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:54:58 PM

"righteous up Goku"

Literally the only version of this that I could find on Youtube.

Red Ribbon Army

I mean, yeah.

But Raditz still would've shown up and wiped them out. Heck, Pilaf would have released King Piccolo and led to the army's destruction. I kind of wish there was some fancomic out there that depicted the Red Ribbon Army waging war against Piccolo and his sons.

edited 5th Mar '17 2:56:31 PM by Soble

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#53662: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:56:07 PM

Rob, there's a difference between being in a position from which you could in theory conquer the world, and actually running the world.

Presumably, a wish that makes you the ruler of the world would prevent you from lossing massive numbers of soldiers and thus not having enough soldiers to actually enforce your rule.

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#53663: Mar 5th 2017 at 2:58:54 PM

Plus civilians would willingly follow your rule.

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#53664: Mar 5th 2017 at 3:01:01 PM

Besides it wasn't as though that anyone could stop them......until Goku came along and wipe them all out.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#53665: Mar 5th 2017 at 3:03:53 PM

Huh when did that party happen?

Does Toriyama really have an issue with Goku acting even a tiny bit altruistic?

Also ya know Chichi really looks good with her bangs hanging. That's a nice outfit she's wearing too.

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#53666: Mar 5th 2017 at 3:05:58 PM
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#53667: Mar 5th 2017 at 3:08:42 PM

GT

I forgot this scene even happened. So why do people not like GT Pan again cause... this was cool.

And what the hell is wrong with Pan's date? If my date turned out to have superhuman strength I'd be... utterly terrified and probably run away the first chance I got. But a week later I'd probably be kicking myself for it.

Super

Bulma being determined to beat Beerus to the Super Dragon Balls is just... precious.

edited 5th Mar '17 3:17:12 PM by Soble

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#53668: Mar 5th 2017 at 3:16:28 PM

That scene is one of the reasons why people don't exactly like, and sometimes don't even tolerate Pan, starting with the fact that what she did should have been impossible, since she was moving faster than Goku and throwing him around like a ragdoll when she should've been literally incapable of making him even budge slightly.

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#53669: Mar 5th 2017 at 3:31:04 PM

To be fair to Bergamo, Goku is showing a severe lack of foresight and isn't taking the situation seriously. He's not helping his case.

I feel Gowasu should have a say in all this. He's had his share of mistakes with Zamasu. An entire timeline, 12 whole universes, went up in smoke because he was a Horrible Judge of Character with Zamasu. He has known Goku and what he can do, I feel he should speak up about how he feels or try to confront him about all this.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#53670: Mar 5th 2017 at 3:37:59 PM

Karrot is neutral good good...

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#53671: Mar 5th 2017 at 3:39:14 PM

Goku is being a horrible team player here. He is literally pissing everyone off & they made it clear that there all gunning for him. Normally that wouldn't be an issue as he likes the challenge but the final tournament is a battle royale meaning its a team effort.

Goku just made winning even harder than it has to be. Especially cause everyone else is not gonna be fighting for the fun of it, but for survival and to save their friends and family. Especially Vegeta who has a child on the way. This is not the situation where you want to be facing an onslaught of 70 enraged powerful warriors.

I hope someone tells Goku off for this

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#53672: Mar 5th 2017 at 4:05:26 PM

Beerus probably will, but his words will go in one ear and get bored and die.

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#53673: Mar 5th 2017 at 4:21:24 PM

Speaking of dying, I just thought of a way Roshi can be legitimately useful. By dying, thus disqualifying the person that kills him. I know Toei won't do this, but it's just a random thought.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#53674: Mar 5th 2017 at 4:24:51 PM

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That's a depressing way to look at it.

...I mean, it could work but still...

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#53675: Mar 5th 2017 at 4:27:38 PM

That would actually be funny.


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